Which day / night scope?

No, go for the cheaper non LRF Alpex 4K if you have a thermal with LRF, theres no point in faffing about pressing buttons to range with the scope with the potential of spooking them with the IR, you should know your holdover out to 300yds so no need for the ballistic calculator either.
Ive got 2 non LRF Alpex 4K’s on C/F rifles and use them with a thermal LRF with no issues at all, and i can mount my torch close to the scope body.

This was exactly my thinking, thank you
 
Yes it could be a good choice, but you need to remember that you may need to buy scope rings an IR and an adjustable mount for the IR
Since you already have a thermal with a rangefinder, you don't really need a scope with an LRF (as long as you know your holdovers)
My comments on ATN are also based on personal experience. I have owned 4 models of the X Sight day/night scope and of those only one worked correctly. I currently own an X Sight 5 5-20LRF and while the image is good, the zoom has a mind of its own and it takes anywhere between 5 and 7 seconds between pressing the LRF button and the reticle moving to the correct position
Based on my personal experience and the experiences of many other people who have purchased X Sights, I simply cannot, in all good conscience, recommend them to anyone

Cheers

Bruce

All noted, I have plenty of scope rings and should have a couple of pic mounted torch mounts for the IR.

I wonder if the new ATN x-Celsior scopes are any better? I see Peter asked for someone to test them back in Dec but not seen anything since.
 
Not clever with technical stuff , but even i have got it with the hik alpex 4k lrf after watching loads of u tube and contacting the tech guys, all good to deal with, put onto a 22rf with subs, and was really surprised how well it worked out to a hundred yards, all within a dove egg size as said up to a hundred. Still need tweaking but getting at one with it, very clear picture.
 
Only one way to find out - let us know how you get on :)

Cheers

Bruce

It’s an expensive gamble to take given so many recommendations for the Alpex. I’d rather buy the right thing first time, however remain open to new products and if anyone has got a real life experience on the x-Celsior it would be good to hear.
 
Owning currently, a Sitemark wraith, a Arken Zulus (now DNT) and both non 4k and 4k Hik micro scopes, my thoughts are,
The Wraith is still good and you can pick one up for a good price but now surpassed.
The Zulus (DNT) makes for a compact unit and has every thing you need at a good price, day and night images are excellent, my only issue is size of buttons when wearing gloves.
The Mk1 Alpex (non 4k) still an excellent scope but loses out in daylight image quality and pixalates when increasing magnification.
The Mk2 Alpex (4k) an excellent scope day and night, providing great day and night image and both models have good size buttons, with the 4k being improved.
If weight is the issue and you want to keep it compact, go for the DNT over the Alpex as many have on smaller calibre RF and air rifles.
On CF full bore calibres, the Alpex seems to be the more popular, being more like your standard rifle scope.
For the money, you can't go wrong with either the DNT or the Alpex.
Reference ANT, those I know who have purchased them seem to leave them in the cupboard in preference for the DNT or Hik products.
My father used to say when buying a car, go with a popular make like Ford, plenty around which means spares are easier to get and your back on the road quicker.
DNT and Hik products seem to relate to that adage.
 
Owning currently, a Sitemark wraith, a Arken Zulus (now DNT) and both non 4k and 4k Hik micro scopes, my thoughts are,
The Wraith is still good and you can pick one up for a good price but now surpassed.
The Zulus (DNT) makes for a compact unit and has every thing you need at a good price, day and night images are excellent, my only issue is size of buttons when wearing gloves.
The Mk1 Alpex (non 4k) still an excellent scope but loses out in daylight image quality and pixalates when increasing magnification.
The Mk2 Alpex (4k) an excellent scope day and night, providing great day and night image and both models have good size buttons, with the 4k being improved.
If weight is the issue and you want to keep it compact, go for the DNT over the Alpex as many have on smaller calibre RF and air rifles.
On CF full bore calibres, the Alpex seems to be the more popular, being more like your standard rifle scope.
For the money, you can't go wrong with either the DNT or the Alpex.
Reference ANT, those I know who have purchased them seem to leave them in the cupboard in preference for the DNT or Hik products.
My father used to say when buying a car, go with a popular make like Ford, plenty around which means spares are easier to get and your back on the road quicker.
DNT and Hik products seem to relate to that adage.

Yes I can relate to the car adage, makes sense. As it stands leaning towards the Alpex - the non HD version seems great value but I really need the best daylight performance if to be used for stalking. Having said that, if I can be sure of my zero I don’t mind swapping between glass and digital. Throw into the mix the odd foxing session too. The Alex HD seems a solid bet.
 
Yes I can relate to the car adage, makes sense. As it stands leaning towards the Alpex - the non HD version seems great value but I really need the best daylight performance if to be used for stalking. Having said that, if I can be sure of my zero I don’t mind swapping between glass and digital. Throw into the mix the odd foxing session too. The Alex HD seems a solid bet.
Personally my scopes stay on the specific rifle but two shooting partners, swop and have little issue.
 
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