How popular is 20cal center fire in the UK?

[the prowler]

20ppc

 

[njc110381]

I've looked into .20's a couple of times but it's not a calibre I've ever owned. I always seem to fall back to the .17's for small quarry. Anything fox sized can have a varmint round from a deer cartridge, currently .25-06.

 

[scotch_egg]

20ppc

Have you had this one as well?

 

[the prowler]

Have you had this one as well?

No mate, not long bought the .20 vartarg. 20ppc is up in Edinburgh rifles. Saw it other day when I picked up moderator.

 

[Hoppy]

The Sauer 202 should feed the 20 Tac if I ever find a 222/223 one with a couple of mags. Not looking too hopeful though.
The alternative is a 20-250. my rifle builder has tested 22-250 in the various mags available and it fed ok. His 243 fed from the longer mags (220 swift to 30-06) as well as the shorter (blocked out) 22-250/243 mag. So as far as we can tell it should work ok. The idea is to use either a barrel adapter or make one from an old barrel to fit the six lug bolt. as I already have two actions (three barrels) hence looking at a 20 cal that would fit.
I really like the Sako but I am looking to get down to a couple of actions with barrels/bolts (mags if necessary) to suit various quarry. If all else fails then I would just re-barrel the Sako probably stick with Tac as changing dies etc seems pointless as I have everything I need for it including forming brass. If I was starting from scratch Practical would definitely by the way I'd go.

I have had problems with my 50gn loads when I ran out of 10X, Vhit powders just wouldn't give me the same speed without primer issues or pressure signs. Even Wild Boar (allegedly the same powder) gave the same issues.
However I got some more 10X so I will be loading some 50's up again. They work very well for those crows that think they're out of range. I had pretty much the same with my 243 it was my rifle of choice for foxes, especially if it was on the windy side. The Tac soon took its place as my go to, I parted with the 243 completely when I got chance of the Sauer.

I have a little bit left, but not enough to justify working up a load, unfortunately it's one of the powders we can't get anymore. I did get good speed with the few I tried pre ban, but didn't follow up with testing, iirc it was around the time REACH came in and spoiled the choice of powders.

looking at selling my Sauer 202 in .243 if your interested, comes with 3 and 5 shot mags?

 

[Sonicdmb73]

looking at selling my Sauer 202 in .243 if your interested, comes with 3 and 5 shot mags?

Thanks but now sorted. I’ll be honest that it is one of two cartridges that I don’t quite follow why Sauer did it the way they did. You may or may not be aware that the 22-250 and 243 are three lug bolt and .473” bolt face. All the larger cartridges are six lug. My rifle building friend put a 243 barrel into a six lug adapter, which is what I would go with. I have a tired 270 barrel that might be a donor for something else, 20-250 maybe. I have just acquired a .223 so we’re looking at if the barrel from my Sako 75 20 Tac will fit (without needing a reamer) into a suitable donor (shot out/knackered) barrel. That gets me nearer the plan to have all CF cartridges chambered in a 202 barrel.
My lad has the earlier mentioned 243 and is potentially going down the 20-250 route, if we can get reamer barrels etc.

 

[dave 67]

Just trawled up a couple of old pics, .20 Practical by "Baldie" Dave.
It was a bughole shooter when I owned it, & probably still is .... it went on to a new life with another dedicated .20 aficionado.

Still earning her place in the cabinet Steve

 

[the prowler]

Most recent dog fox with the 20vartarg 135yards

 

[Bowland blades]

Great Fox and long range crow cartridge . It's failing is in England and Wales , its not Legal on any of our deer! A 22-250 , 223 etc however is legal , the 22-250 gives more push and punch (on balance) and the loaded ammo is far easier to get ( exactly what and when you want it) in the smaller gun shops and also the large.
Its a bit mad really , really 50 grain bullet and 1000ft lb is the bit that matters not the few though on the bullets shank .
This said lets not get the Government involved in the legislation as we are likely to come out with them taking the opportunity to screw-up other things while they are at it eh?

 

[Clydemotor]

I shoot a 20PPC and its an amazing little flat shooting round , also shoot a 17 REM , both foxing rifles

 

[hedge hunter]

Still earning her place in the cabinet Steve View attachment 410413

Dave built my 20 practical and boy does it shoot.its a gun I always pick up for crows and the maggies

 

[hedge hunter]

I shoot a 20PPC and its an amazing little flat shooting round , also shoot a 17 REM , both foxing rifles

Always had a hankering for a 17 caliber.whats the usable range on a 17 rem

 

[the prowler]

Last time out with the 20vartarg. 165yards.

 

[Border]

Always had a hankering for a 17 caliber.whats the usable range on a 17 rem

Out to 200m is my self imposed limit for foxes.
One from 50m this am.

 

[hedge hunter]

Not that theres a massive choice but what's your favourite bullets for your twentys...fifty little green rockets ready for work

 

[fizzbangwhallop]

Not that theres a massive choice but what's your favourite bullets for your twentys...fifty little green rockets ready for work

Same for me and I’m not far behind you…. Molten salt annealed these .20Prac cases this afternoon and a batch of .17Rems



Cheers,

Fizz

 

[Cyres]

Mines with Dasherman awaiting a rebarrel with a Bartelin 1:10 barrel. Lost without it.
D

 

[kenbro]

I shoot a 20PPC and its an amazing little flat shooting round , also shoot a 17 REM , both foxing

If you need a 17 REM Wilson case gauge for little money, please pm me.
Ken.

 

[rick1127]

I recently got a 20 tac of a member on here.
What an absolute weapon.
I love it I just need to get out more with it.

 

[Sonicdmb73]

Not that theres a massive choice but what's your favourite bullets for your twentys...fifty little green rockets ready for work

My 20 Tac is a 10" twist so will shoot the Berger 50gn very well out to a tested 600yds. However I have 32 and 39 Blitz kings, 32 and 40 Vmax, an odd 40 and part box of 55 Berger (don't stabilise though, probably why there's a part box) plus some unknown 32 hollow points.
I have tried them all, the unidentified hollow points at 4000fps ish didn't reach the target, too fast a twist I assume. I have tried the 32 gn bullets but not much past load testing.
My favourite for terminal perfomance and accuracy was 39 BK when I could get a decent supply. I have plenty of 40 Vmax which are almost as good.
The 50 Bergers are the best for longer ranges however I only have a couple of boxes left so tend to use the Vmax.
I should really test the 32's some more I get the feeling they would be very effective for crows.