Gun owner in court for having more ammunition than allowed

[Heym SR20]

Ammunition Allowance.

 

[User00056]

He had something else going on and this was a way for the cops to get another bite at the apple

I suspect this may be on the money

 

[timbrayford]

Begs the question that if you are allowed 250 rounds for 3 different calibres, giving a total max of 750, but had 260 in one calibre but 245 in each of the others, then has a law been broken and, if so, would it be in the public interest to prosecute on that basis.

It doesn't work like that!

 

[timbrayford]

There seems to be a push to reduce the amount of ammo held. The explanation I was given is that ammo stored at my house is a rigger risk of being stolen than ammo stored at an rfd so they would rather we went to the rfd more frequently than had stockpiles in our cabinets.

Kind of makes sense, unless you are shooting A LOT!!

Makes no sense at all, either your security falls within HO guidance or it doesn't .

 

[Heym SR20]

Ammunition Allowance.

Begs the question that if you are allowed 250 rounds for 3 different calibres, giving a total max of 750, but had 260 in one calibre but 245 in each of the others, then has a law been broken and, if so, would it be in the public interest to prosecute on that basis.

Your FAC is very specific as the total amount of rounds you can possess for each calibre on your FAC. If it says 220 rounds of .243 Winchester, that doesn’t mean 201 or a couple of rounds of 6mm CM etc, it means up to and including 220 of 243 Winchester

When you sign your FAC you agree to comply with the terms of your FAC. It then says if it is an offence to breach the terms of the certificate with a maximum penalty of six months with free board and lodging and / or a fine.

If you don’t like the terms of your certificate you can either:

1) just accept them and get on with your deer stalking etc

2) go back to your firearms department and have a discussion directly or if that doesn’t work you can appeal through due process in the courts etc

Or give up your FAC and all the obligations of firearms ownership and use in the UK. You can still go out stalking and use an estate rifle under the estate rifle rules, or be a member of an approved rifle club and use club rifles on the range.

 

[VSS]

There seems to be a push to reduce the amount of ammo held. The explanation I was given is that ammo stored at my house is a rigger risk of being stolen than ammo stored at an rfd so they would rather we went to the rfd more frequently than had stockpiles in our cabinets.

Kind of makes sense, unless you are shooting A LOT!!

The FEO who handled my original FAC application was very practical. I'd asked for a very modest ammo allowance, and during the interview he said: "You're quite a long way from a gunshop here", and promptly doubled what I'd asked for.

 

[TringSaint]

Your FAC is very specific as the total amount of rounds you can possess for each calibre on your FAC. If it says 220 rounds of .243 Winchester, that doesn’t mean 201 or a couple of rounds of 6mm CM etc, it means up to and including 220 of 243 Winchester

When you sign your FAC you agree to comply with the terms of your FAC. It then says if it is an offence to breach the terms of the certificate with a maximum penalty of six months with free board and lodging and / or a fine.

If you don’t like the terms of your certificate you can either:

1) just accept them and get on with your deer stalking etc

2) go back to your firearms department and have a discussion directly or if that doesn’t work you can appeal through due process in the courts etc

Or give up your FAC and all the obligations of firearms ownership and use in the UK. You can still go out stalking and use an estate rifle under the estate rifle rules, or be a member of an approved rifle club and use club rifles on the range.

I have no issue with my ammo limits - was just posing a questions as one extra 243 in lieu of one less 308 is, in the grand scheme of things, a non issue.

 

[TringSaint]

Makes no sense at all, either your security falls within HO guidance or it doesn't .

Indeed. But you know how the police love us owning firearms!!

 

[TringSaint]

It doesn't work like that!

I know it doesn’t. But was posing the question as in the case presented the person was acquitted (if I read it correctly).

 

[Heym SR20]

I know it doesn’t. But was posing the question as in the case presented the person was acquitted (if I read it correctly).

No he was not acquitted. He plead guilty, and got a telling off rather than a fine or a sentence, so he will have criminal record for breach of the Firearms Act.

Acquittal would mean that the case was dropped so he never faced the charges in court, or he was found not guilty.

 

[Rake Aboot]

There should be no limit on ammo held anyway.
Just another token restriction to say control is in place .

Once someone has 600 rounds of centrefire ammo then number is moot

 

[TringSaint]

No he was not acquitted. He plead guilty, and got a telling off rather than a fine or a sentence, so he will have criminal record for breach of the Firearms Act.

Acquittal would mean that the case was dropped so he never faced the charges in court, or he was found not guilty.

I misread it then.

 

[timbrayford]

There should be no limit on ammo held anyway.
Just another token restriction to say control is in place .

Once someone has 600 rounds of centrefire ammo then number is moot

It may have had relevance to the situation in 1920 and totally irrelevant now

 

[starr shot]

Always the most likely scenario.

If you read through the report it says the police officers were there on another matter not in front of the courts now.