Any lawful quarry comes under AOLQ it doesn't have to be vermin to qualify!
Boar Cal
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Teazel
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This is certainly a interesting topic, in theory you could shoot a boar with a .22 rimfire if its a humane kill but a word of advice, the boar has a big head and not such a big kill zone, if you go for neck or shoulder you need something punchy no lighter than 150grain. It really is all about shot placement, many who shoot their first boar shoot it like a deer, heart lung shot, your boar will run, and possibly a long way. I use 308 with a 150gr and drop virtually everything on the spot, I have also see boar shot at 70yds with a 300win mag 180gr bullet and run 60yd. I think the biggest problem is that someone who uses a 223 or 243 is probably not a regular boar shooter and when one comes into his sights the adrenaline starts to push the cross hairs all over the place, seen it happen to even experienced hunters. Then again a miss ( as long as its a clean miss) is the best outcome if you haven't got a pickup, quad and winch or a chiller big enough to cope, pulling the trigger is the easy bit.
timbrayford
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Yes & no. If you kill it no problem, if you merely wounded it you could get prosecuted for cruelty .
timbrayford
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For the benefit of anyone who'd just like to learn a bit more about wild boar in the UK I'd suggest that you take a look at NGO's Wild Boar Certificate online course. If nothing else it will give you something constructive to do on cold, dark winter evenings.
Teazel
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This course was developed by very experienced boar shooters from BASC, DI and the NGO and well worth a look
Hi, I have been scouring the net for any terminal performance reports on the PPU Grom - and yours is the ONLY one I have found! So thank you for that! From your photos, it seems that the lead core has fully disappeared. Is that correct? Also could you let me know the retained weight and diameter of the expanded bullet? thanks in advance!
So for thos of us who haven't shot hoad or up on the anatomy..
Where's the I'm point for vitals ?
The boar equivalent of
" up the back of front leg tight in behind shoulder half way up body "
If you get my meaning
Paul
Polar Lynx
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Just aim at the shoulder. Will give you some margin. Use heavy bullet. Using 308 and Lapua Naturalis 170 gr and boar fall on spot.
jthyttin
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There's nothing special in Grom, from non-lead (monolithic) perspective it's fastish to open and good choice. Only used in 308, I think it was 174gr or something. In fact about a year ago I gave rest of them to my Estonian friend and since they haven't complained I guess the performance continued to be good. There was 170-180 of them left.
Grom does give excessive copper fouling in some barrels, bit like original Barnes X. So you need to keep an eye on that, in order to maintain peak accuracy. Grom was also very accurate for a hunting bullet that looks like it's made by village blacksmith... I loaded it for three rifles and match level accuracy in all (not talking about BR...)
People I know used it in other calibers with similar results.
jthyttin
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Vitals are low, and especially in the winter the anatomy including hair will make it kind of difficult for first timers to select proper spot. Snow doesn't help any. Basically the spine extends backward from snout / head in the middle level, neck is thick and the hair is long in the shoulder (extending upwards) especially on males. So the challenge is mainly in vertical direction.
Follow the above advice given by others and keep your shots below the middle. I guess it's no accident why running targets include moose and boar... the way they run it's easy to lead the shot... in theory
Hope these helpHi, I have been scouring the net for any terminal performance reports on the PPU Grom - and yours is the ONLY one I have found! So thank you for that! From your photos, it seems that the lead core has fully disappeared. Is that correct? Also could you let me know the retained weight and diameter of the expanded bullet? thanks in advance!
Polar Lynx
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That does actually help ALOT! So thank you very much for that. I'm serious when I say that yours seem to be the only photos on the net of a recovered Grom.
It seems that the bullet performed splendidly (75% weight retention and 2x expansion). Much like a budget Barnes X bullet would. Looks like a winner to me. I also have a 7mm Rem Mag, so will be ordering some of these. Cheers!
Polar Lynx
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Boar ought to be shot by all-copper. Reason being a bullet in shoulder is a 'dead dropping boar' but with lead there will be extensive meat damage and also game dealers often refuse 'lead pigs'. Of course a boar will die from whatever a bullet placed behind the schoulder (lung) but higher risk of dangerous searching out in the dark within a circle of say 60 m.
jthyttin
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You getting the original Grom from somewhere, or are you talking about Z-Grom? Not that there should be huge difference, but only PPU knows...
yes, the original Groms. My local gun shop here in Switzerland has them. Its hard to find premium bullets here that don't cost an arm and a leg
jthyttin
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Yeah it's a PITA since US officials started to enforce the export restrictions on mainland sellers. Places like Hunting Sport, Alzey and Grauwolf no longer send US bullets/brass over the border.
AFAIK US is pushing for situation where some distributor would apply for permit that allows larger area like EU. Those distributor permits are longish, IIRC 5 years. Would simplify things, but drive prices up also. Would be a toss if they understand to make the country list comprehensive.
AFAIK US is pushing for situation where some distributor would apply for permit that allows larger area like EU. Those distributor permits are longish, IIRC 5 years. Would simplify things, but drive prices up also. Would be a toss if they understand to make the country list comprehensive.
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