Softer-shooting than .308?
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tackb
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the 6.5 creedmoor is as fantastically popular as it is not just because it's a great cartridge but also because Hornady supported it properly !
if Hornady are involved it tends to be good and well supported
6.5 creedmoor I am able to source, although they seem a bit pricey. The 2 calibers above I cannot find in our region.
Are there any legal limit on bullet weight? and energy?
see above, at least 6,5mm and over 2200J at 100m energy for anything bigger than Roe.
Heym SR20
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7x57 with a 140gn bullet. Very soft recoil. Stock fit also very important in terms of felt recoil, and a poorly fitting stock will amplify any recoil especially if you have an injury.
But I wouldn’t be in any hurry to change your kit after an accident. Take time to recover, build strength and fitness again. Then teach yourself to shoot again. Start with a 22rf, then light recoil of a clay shotgun with 21gram loads, or if a rifle a 223 and build up from there. It takes time to learn to accommodate recoil, even more so post an accident.
But don’t rush it.
But I wouldn’t be in any hurry to change your kit after an accident. Take time to recover, build strength and fitness again. Then teach yourself to shoot again. Start with a 22rf, then light recoil of a clay shotgun with 21gram loads, or if a rifle a 223 and build up from there. It takes time to learn to accommodate recoil, even more so post an accident.
But don’t rush it.
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Carrying in a riflebackpack like Vorn could help.Stalking is the preferred method I'm afraid. The R8 is not a light rifle, but acceptable for carrying. As stated before less is better, but I guess recoil is the bigger issue, so we need to find a good balance. Or if need be, I will be carrying the gun...
Light weight bullets in 6,5 have better ballistic coefficent than the same weight in .308. A slightly reduced load would help, Hornady and Remington has reduced loads for hunting in 308w.
Higher energy limit than for bear and moose in Sweden.
Apparantly Sweden has mushy bear and moose....
The Vorn is a very nice backback with great functionality. it was already on the wishlist, even without weightspread in mind. Good excuse to buy one...
Sammie
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Thanks for the calculations, very informative!Being a bit of a nerdI thought I would run some figures through a recoil calculator to check out how things look. If we take an 11 pound rifle/scope if you reload or can get someone to do it for you.
180g bullet in .308 loaded to max pressure this gives a recoil energy of 11.7 ft lbs
150g bullet in .308 loaded to max pressure this gives a recoil energy of 10.87 ft lbs
130g bullet in .308 loaded to max pressure this gives a recoil energy of 10.39 ft lbs
110g bullet in .308 loaded to max pressure this gives a recoil energy of 9.03 ft lbs
140 g bullet in 6.5x55 loaded to max pressure this gives a recoil energy of 9.25 ft lbs
120g bullet in 6.5x55 loaded to max pressure this gives a recoil energy of 8.52 ft lbs
As you can see there is overlap between the recoil levels. If the 110g .308 is loaded down to a reduced velocity of 3000 fps which will still be effective on deer at moderate ranges ( muzzle energy 2100 ft lbs) then the recoil can reduce further to 7.84 ft lbs. Now obviously any cartridge can be loaded down to reduce recoil but the point I'm making is that you don't need to swap calibres just to reduce recoil if you reduce bullet weight and velocity. Can I ask what game you are shooting as this may influence the bullet choice? If you are shooting deer then the light Barnes TTSX work very well.
Please feel free to ignore this, I'm not trying to "teach Granny to suck eggs" as they say!!
Another alternative would be reduced recoil cartridges such as the Hornady Custom lite ammunition or the Barnes reduced recoil line:
VOR-TX RR TTSX 308 Win 110 GR BT
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Sammie
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Thanks, but see my earlier replies, my question is not about the injury I have now, I can shoot just fine with the Blaser R8 when sitting or lying down. I just can't hold the rifle up by hand. But I was advised to choose the bullet with the least recoil for the job to prevent other problems in the future.
More powder , heavier bullets always increase recoil . Light guns kick harder . Your current 308 win is already down to the lightest weight legal weight right?
But the OP has to use the legal weight bullet that remains legal and that's not 110 grain either . In Alaska i believe most Moose are shot with .223 rem now
147gr at the moment, because we were not able to get anything under that from stores. But again, it is not about felt recoil, but about load on the body.
110g at 3150fps give 3286 joules plenty of energy
Sammie
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When hunting, I use quad sticks. That works fine.
not sure what medical risks you are referring to but if you choose a light weight 6.5mm rifle you will have more recoil unless you shoot a light weight bullet that is then risking not doing enough damage to your target?
Also you can reduce your recoil by loading low velocities but again this may cause expansion problems.
consider a rucksack style drag bag? so you spread the load of a heavier rifle over 2 shoulders?
if you half the weight on your rifle then you need to half the weight of your bullet. Can you use 85gr bullets?
The bullets need to be heavy enough, specs are above. I think a bit heavier gun in combination with a Vorn backpack is a good solution for Sam. Much of the weight rests on the hips, which is fine.
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