Register of competent deer stalkers - results?

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With respect you have no idea what his job description is, and your perpetual nonsense does you no credit.

I have had long and detailed conversations with Conor and he is an extremely intelligent man and well qualified to discuss the subject ... and to say he is just paying lip service to corporate BASC views just shows how little you know.

Nothing would compensate him for the perpetual aggravation and provocation leveled at him on this site and actually am surprised how he puts up with it frankly.

How about you give the BASC bashing a rest as frankly you distract and destroy so many useful threads.
With respect as regards input into the forum with this
Hi all thought it was about time I did my intro so I can (hopefully) contribute to some of the forum posts .. Semi retired, live in south glos, stalk red, roe and muntjac, own small woodland in Wilts, lease 500 acres in North Devon
Have you registered and taken many new stalkers out on your ground to give them a leg up the stalking ladder as I looked through your "4" threads and there is nothing to show you have.
Despite you jaded view of Lee he is very generous goes the extra mile for people "who he has never met" like myself he has quite strong opinions but we both put our hand in our stalking/pigeons/ducks back pocket and take out people for new experiences. ( this is a not an open PM line to ask for shooting jut a reply to HunterMoore)
Tim.243
 
When I was a member of BASC for many years Conor was always there so I stayed for a few more years.
Why because he cared he is only one person in any chain.

If we had more like him shooting would have a chance to survive we all need orgs to voice our thoughts.
Who do you use for your insurance these days Bill as you said "when I was a member of BASC"
What prompted the switch to your current provider?
 
As a NGO member why do you regularly wade into BASC related threads for some BASC bashing given that its decades since you left BASC? The shooting organisations work together on key issues, such as the voluntary transition away from lead shot for live quarry shooting, which has been supported by BASC and NGO. Perhaps drop the axe, it's decades overdue.
What was voluntary about it ? no members volunteered for it , they had it forced upon them by their respective orgs , so hardly voluntary is it ..............
 
oh i dont think its free theyve cost us all quite a lot , just some people cant see it
What I see is that:
  • Most members have no experience of running a membership organisation, but feel entitled to pontificate on how they should be run
  • Most members don't support their local branches or branch events
  • Most members don't volunteer to stand for election
  • Most members don't volunteer to help
  • Most members don't bother to vote
  • Most members don't really care about anything other than getting the cheapest insurance
  • Most members will jump ship to another organisation at the drop of the hat, but don't hold those other organisations to anything like the same standard
  • Most members expect an organisation that campaigns like the NRA in the USA, but aren't willing to put their hands in their pockets to fund it
Shooters and stalkers in the UK get exactly the organisations they deserve.
 
What I see is that:
  • Most members have no experience of running a membership organisation, but feel entitled to pontificate on how they should be run
  • Most members don't support their local branches or branch events
  • Most members don't volunteer to stand for election
  • Most members don't volunteer to help
  • Most members don't bother to vote
  • Most members don't really care about anything other than getting the cheapest insurance
  • Most members will jump ship to another organisation at the drop of the hat, but don't hold those other organisations to anything like the same standard
  • Most members expect an organisation that campaigns like the NRA in the USA, but aren't willing to put their hands in their pockets to fund it
Shooters and stalkers in the UK get exactly the organisations they deserve.
I agree with some of the points raised , what concerns me is the BASC claims to be democratic yet no votes on lead and the minutes on lead are confidential 🤷🏻 for the record I didn’t choose my chosen org for insurance ( I have that separately) I chose them for their stance on the lead issue hence why I left basc
 
i have bought about rejoining and standing for the BASC council, but my wife advised me not to attempt a crusade I couldn’t win!

If I did win a place on the council I would turn up a a meeting and let rip wholesale, to which I would be asked to leave and not return so it would be a fruitless exercise
 
Politically correct I am not, but 100% straight I am and I don’t think BASC are ready or every will be ready for my blunt honesty, or my queens best English 😂

If I go to war all my ducks are in a row, so when battle starts I’m going to win from the word go
 
I switched to NGO as they seemed to offer the courses for meat and hygiene and covered the same amount of insurance cover.
So one as to try them out only one less book a year and so far OK

If you are not happy move as i did Conor was all ways there when I was with BASC 👍
 
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What I see is that:
  • Most members have no experience of running a membership organisation, but feel entitled to pontificate on how they should be run
  • Most members don't support their local branches or branch events
  • Most members don't volunteer to stand for election
  • Most members don't volunteer to help
  • Most members don't bother to vote
  • Most members don't really care about anything other than getting the cheapest insurance
  • Most members will jump ship to another organisation at the drop of the hat, but don't hold those other organisations to anything like the same standard
  • Most members expect an organisation that campaigns like the NRA in the USA, but aren't willing to put their hands in their pockets to fund it
Shooters and stalkers in the UK get exactly the organisations they deserve.
You failed (not surprising) to add a huge numbers of BASC members are tied into them via their wildfowling clubs and have no choice, they have a voice but no choice (or leave the club)
If you are going to cast your net make sure the cod end is tied off. :rofl:
 
i have bought about rejoining and standing for the BASC council, but my wife advised me not to attempt a crusade I couldn’t win!

If I did win a place on the council I would turn up a a meeting and let rip wholesale, to which I would be asked to leave and not return so it would be a fruitless exercise

If you - and others here - truly believe that by doing so you will be reflecting the wishes of sufficient BASC members to get you elected then you should do it.

Otherwise be happy with the organisations of your choice, and leave BASC to do its own thing.
 
You failed (not surprising) to add a huge numbers of BASC members are tied into them via their wildfowling clubs and have no choice, they have a voice but no choice (or leave the club)
If you are going to cast your net make sure the cod end is tied off. :rofl:

You've said yourself that they have a choice, but for most it comes down to practicality, rather than principle.
 
Otherwise be happy with the organisations of your choice, and leave BASC to do its own thing.
That really would be the most pleasant outcome for all concerned.

If I did win a place on the council I would turn up a a meeting and let rip wholesale, to which I would be asked to leave and not return so it would be a fruitless exercise
But, on the other hand, if you (or any of the other vocal 'tell it like it is' BASC-bashers) were to be voted to the council and you thumped your chest, let rip and told them like it is, they might not throw you out but thank you for your blunt honesty and, after a bit of to and fro, they might say, 'well how we got here is now all in the past, water under the bridge. What do you propose we do now?'

What would you say?
 
That really would be the most pleasant outcome for all concerned.


But, on the other hand, if you (or any of the other vocal 'tell it like it is' BASC-bashers) were to be voted to the council and you thumped your chest, let rip and told them like it is, they might not throw you out but thank you for your blunt honesty and, after a bit of to and fro, they might say, 'well how we got here is now all in the past, water under the bridge. What do you propose we do now?'

What would you say?
If I honestly thought it was a battle that I could win, I would do it, but unfortunately I have got an inch of doubt and if I have got an inch doubt I will not go to war!

If I went onto the BASC Council, I would not rock the tree. I would cut it down and unfortunately, I don’t think they’re ready for that.

But it is certainly something I have thought about that’s for sure 👍
 
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