Some advice on choice of optics for stalking rifle

TheOldTool

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Hi, I have my prospective rifle chosen ( Seekins Havak PH2 in 6.5 creedmoor) and am starting to look at a suitable set of optics. For now, I want the best for stalking, especially as we usually go early or late.

Can I get some recommendations please in the £500 - £1500 range ?

Thanks!
 
Hi, I have my prospective rifle chosen ( Seekins Havak PH2 in 6.5 creedmoor) and am starting to look at a suitable set of optics. For now, I want the best for stalking, especially as we usually go early or late.

Can I get some recommendations please in the £500 - £1500 range ?

Thanks!
That's a big window of price range. Bottom end of that is the likes of Delta/GPO (I've a GPO Spectra but I'm just about to replace it with a digital scope so that'll be up on here shortly).

When you say "set" of optics, are you referring to just the rifle scope or are you also wanting binoculars? Digital or just glass?
 
I would look for something simple so you can focus on the stalking. Don’t get drawn by lots of features, adjustable turrets, complicated reticles etc.

Instead look at one one of the Schmidt & Bender Klassics with a 42 or 50mm objective lense and 4A reticle, or Swarovski, Khales or Leica Equivalent.

Even better find a really good 2nd Hand 6x42 S&B for £300, mount it nice and low. Zero so the bullet strikes 4cm high at 100m and go hunting. You don’t have to worry about range until you are well over 200m - that is more than far enough for 95% of deer stalking.
 
Thanks, the wide price range is because I was told to spend as much as you can afford on the scope ( I am talking about a scope only here...) But obviously, if I can get a decent scope that does what I need for less, then happy days! I dont think I will be shooting at longer than 500m in my experience - but want something good in low light and not digital. There is a bewildering amount of choice.....
 
I would look for something simple so you can focus on the stalking. Don’t get drawn by lots of features, adjustable turrets, complicated reticles etc.

Instead look at one one of the Schmidt & Bender Klassics with a 42 or 50mm objective lense and 4A reticle, or Swarovski, Khales or Leica Equivalent.

Even better find a really good 2nd Hand 6x42 S&B for £300, mount it nice and low. Zero so the bullet strikes 4cm high at 100m and go hunting. You don’t have to worry about range until you are well over 200m - that is more than far enough for 95% of deer stalking.
Im a big fan of simple. I'm simple too.
As it happens I've got a very nice condition, almost like new, Schmidt and bender 6 x 42 for sale. I'm after 300 for it. My other rifles have 8 x 56 s and b. The glass is top drawer and the scopes near bomb proof. By spending 1200 quid you won't get 4x as good glass.
 
You appear to have selected a rifle for shooting deer at longer ranges (300 m and beyond). As this will involve careful trajectory management, I would recommend a good digital scope equipped with a laser rangefinder. At present, the best of these is the Hik Micro Alpex 4K LRF. Optical alternatives would be the Burris Eliminator VI or the Swarovski DS Gen II, but these lie outside your budget.
 
I'm a big fan of Hawke—lifetime warranty, excellent glass, and unbeatable value for money. All my stalking rifles run Hawke Sidewinders, which come in a wide range of configurations around the £500 mark. I’m all for simplicity: clean reticules, no unnecessary clutter. That said, I always opt for models with parallax adjustment and illuminated reticules. Both features have proven invaluable across varied shooting distances, and the illumination really comes into its own in low-light conditions.
 
Thank you. On all the stalks I have been on ( and am new to this, so thats around 12) Nothing has been further away than 200m and realistically, I dont expect to be regularly shooting at long range, due to the nature of the land I shoot over. The deer I have taken so far were at 120m, 150m and 175m, and I would expect this to be pretty typical going forwards
 
I really wouldn’t recommend anything digital for a novice stalker. They provide far far far too much information and faff factor. A novice needs to learn how to find deer, how to get in close to deer and then how to shoot.

The idea of a novice trying to shoot a living breathing animal at 300m is just farcical and unethical. I suspect will rain down lots of scorn as will be touching nerves of those who should know better.

There is a time and a place for long shots. But being a novice is not the time and place.

For novices there is a huge amount to think about in terms of safety, deer selection, shot placement etc. The last thing a novice needs is yet more equipment and menus to faff over.
 
Thank you. On all the stalks I have been on ( and am new to this, so thats around 12) Nothing has been further away than 200m and realistically, I dont expect to be regularly shooting at long range, due to the nature of the land I shoot over. The deer I have taken so far were at 120m, 150m and 175m, and I would expect this to be pretty typical going forwards
In that case, I’d steer clear of anything too basic. When I first started stalking, I went for a simple scope thinking it would be enough—but as my knowledge and enthusiasm grew, I quickly found myself wanting more features. I ended up replacing it sooner than expected, which was a waste of money in hindsight. If I’d just gone for a slightly more advanced model from the start—something with parallax adjustment, illumination, and a clean but capable reticule—I’d have saved myself the hassle and expense. It’s worth getting a scope that gives you room to grow, even if you don’t use all the features straight away. Your budget is plenty big enough to have all the toys! I have never been a fan of digital scopes, just not for me!
 
Where in Kent are you? More than welcome to have a look through my GPO Spectra 5x 3-15x56i

I think I also saw a Delta being advertised recently on here.
 
I really wouldn’t recommend anything digital for a novice stalker. They provide far far far too much information and faff factor.
What faff? Zero and set up the BC on a digital scope like the Zulus, then its just a case of ranging the shooting on the BC reticle🤷
 
Thank you. On all the stalks I have been on ( and am new to this, so thats around 12) Nothing has been further away than 200m and realistically, I dont expect to be regularly shooting at long range, due to the nature of the land I shoot over. The deer I have taken so far were at 120m, 150m and 175m, and I would expect this to be pretty typical going forwards
These are indeed more typical ranges. A classic 6x42 is all you need for sub-200 m work. No fuss. Good glass. Zero and forget. And when it's too dark to see them, it's too dark to shoot them.

Edit: I also like a variable, such as a 2-7x32 or 3-9x40, as the low end beats a 6x for woodland stalking and the upper end gives you a bigger deer picture to put your reticle on at 200 m. Unfortunately, these formats are now dominated by cheaper airgun-oriented scopes. Good hunting glass is still available in 1.5-6x42 format, but other lower-power variables are mostly oriented towards tactical shooting and have smaller objectives and fatter tubes.
IMO there are also too many fat-tubed 50-56 mm scopes about. It is simply more glass/bulk/weight than I want on a stalking rifle.
 
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a simple scope is fine like a 6x42 or 8x56 but they are limited in there versatility where as a scope with more features has the potential to allow you to grow a bit in your use of it by all means leave it on a fixed mag and never touch the turrets but thats your choice not a limitation of your scope if you get one with more features
 
What faff? Zero and set up the BC on a digital scope like the Zulus, then its just a case of ranging the shooting on the BC reticle🤷
Agreed. I have an Alpex A50E and its a case of turn on and adjust focus...much the same as a conventional scope minus the turning it on part.

You can faff about with fancy optics as much as digital scopes and if you want to gain extra shooting opportunities in the first and last 15 mins of legal light a digital will outperform all high end glass.
 
Id also recommend fixed zoom for a beginner 6x42 for woodland or 8x56 for the open hill. You want to focus on stalking, deer identification and shot placement not zoom or turning the scope on.
 
In that case, I’d steer clear of anything too basic. When I first started stalking, I went for a simple scope thinking it would be enough—but as my knowledge and enthusiasm grew, I quickly found myself wanting more features. I ended up replacing it sooner than expected, which was a waste of money in hindsight. If I’d just gone for a slightly more advanced model from the start—something with parallax adjustment, illumination, and a clean but capable reticule—I’d have saved myself the hassle and expense. It’s worth getting a scope that gives you room to grow, even if you don’t use all the features straight away. Your budget is plenty big enough to have all the toys! I have never been a fan of digital scopes, just not for me!
I was the complete opposite.
When I started stalking I thought I needed a scope with lots of features, but as my experience grew I realised that the majority were, at best, unnecessary, and at worst just expensive gimmicks.
I have since learned to spend more for less features, which means that for your money you're getting better quality glass and construction.

Things I did have, but now don't bother with as I found them totally unnecessary in stalking scenarios:

Ballistic turrets: I now zero once only, to mpbr principles, then leave well alone. Only time I need to do any zeroing, or make any scope adjustments, is if I've just fitted a new one.

Multiple aiming point reticles: Caused nothing but confusion. A simple fine crosshair is infinitely more useful.

Adjustable parallax: Never used it. Can't see any point in having it for shooting at normal stalking distances.

Large diameter objective: Nothing to be gained by going bigger than 50mm.

High magnification: Never adjusted it higher than 7.5× for stalking, so a scope that only goes up to 9× is more than adequate. So why was I paying for 25× magnification?

Illuminated reticle: Anything more than a tiny centre dot is a hindrance, not a help. As for multi-colour Illumination options (eg, red/green), why was I stupid enough to pay for that???
 
Keep it simple as you'll have plenty of things to think about until up to speed.

I have a 7 x 50 Meopta you can have for £200.
Let me know if of any interest?
 
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