I'm not a real arborist...

Stalker62

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Friends of ours (difficult to believe I know), recently migrated down to Cornwall.

Both are professional arborists. Both of them have (for years now) been nagging me to sort out a Weeping Willow.


"It needs cutting back".

"Remember last year we told you that tree needs cutting back?"


You get the picture.

Last week they had to come up to Town on business. They dropped in for lunch.

"Are you ever going to sort the tree out?"

FFS.

Eventually they left, promising to return at Christmas time, and do the damn job themselves. I am by nature an idle man. I am genetically full of inertia, but this sparked me into action.

I explained to MrsS62 that I was going to 'sort' out that tree "once and for all'...

"Why don't you wait for them to come back at Christmas" my wife (almost) pleaded.

No. I am the man of the house, and I will get it done.

So confident in my tree felling skills am I, that I decide I am going to do this by hand. No need to annoy the village with the sound of a chainsaw.

I soon start to see the results of my exertions...

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"Take a photo of me and send it to Cornwall!"

I hack down another limb of the tree, and proudly send that image down to Cornwall.
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"Tell your husband that he needs to level off those stumps. It is not symmetrical and looks a mess!"

By now I had (thinking the job was complete) packed up and was in my dressing gown.

"Not symmetrical?"

FFS. I will show her 'not symmetrical".

I hurl myself up the ladder with a handsaw and a bubble level. I will made the bastard things symmetrical...

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Despite what the photo may imply, the bubble is 'on point'.

I send off that photograph to Kernow - pleased that I have demonstrated I know what I am doing.

Anyhoo.

This morning (in the dark), I walked the dog. By the time I returned home it was light.

This is what greeted me...

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This is all I can see...

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I did say I am not a real arborist...
 
I don't know what footings you have on your garage but that looks to close for my liking if that was my tree I think it would be coming out.
Just as a little side note I've done quiet a bit of subsidence work under instruction from insurance engineers and most had a tree involved or large hedge.
 
I don't know what footings you have on your garage but that looks to close for my liking if that was my tree I think it would be coming out.

@Norfolk Horn

The short answer is that I have no idea.🤔

The fact that the tree is too close to the garage is pretty much accepted by all who see it.

I suspect that any damage has already occurred. It may be that the next time I fire up the chainsaw, the two "fingers" will be coming off but I am not sure about the trunk?

One of the upsides to being old I guess: I suspect I will be long dead before this ever becomes a real drama.
 
Friends of ours (difficult to believe I know), recently migrated down to Cornwall.

Both are professional arborists. Both of them have (for years now) been nagging me to sort out a Weeping Willow.


"It needs cutting back".

"Remember last year we told you that tree needs cutting back?"


You get the picture.

Last week they had to come up to Town on business. They dropped in for lunch.

"Are you ever going to sort the tree out?"

FFS.

Eventually they left, promising to return at Christmas time, and do the damn job themselves. I am by nature an idle man. I am genetically full of inertia, but this sparked me into action.

I explained to MrsS62 that I was going to 'sort' out that tree "once and for all'...

"Why don't you wait for them to come back at Christmas" my wife (almost) pleaded.

No. I am the man of the house, and I will get it done.

So confident in my tree felling skills am I, that I decide I am going to do this by hand. No need to annoy the village with the sound of a chainsaw.

I soon start to see the results of my exertions...

View attachment 437030

"Take a photo of me and send it to Cornwall!"

I hack down another limb of the tree, and proudly send that image down to Cornwall.
View attachment 437031


"Tell your husband that he needs to level off those stumps. It is not symmetrical and looks a mess!"

By now I had (thinking the job was complete) packed up and was in my dressing gown.

"Not symmetrical?"

FFS. I will show her 'not symmetrical".

I hurl myself up the ladder with a handsaw and a bubble level. I will made the bastard things symmetrical...

View attachment 437032

Despite what the photo may imply, the bubble is 'on point'.

I send off that photograph to Kernow - pleased that I have demonstrated I know what I am doing.

Anyhoo.

This morning (in the dark), I walked the dog. By the time I returned home it was light.

This is what greeted me...

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This is all I can see...

View attachment 437036
😖



I did say I am not a real arborist...
All I can see is an upside down person with no trousers on
 
When we moved to our present home there was a 20' oak established 6' from the building.
In less than 24 hours in our new home it was down!

My neighbours are obsessed with trees.
Everything turns green in our back yard.
Forced to be an upright citizen has its downsides. If it were not for my dam licences the freaking lot would be down!
 
Friends of ours (difficult to believe I know), recently migrated down to Cornwall.

Both are professional arborists. Both of them have (for years now) been nagging me to sort out a Weeping Willow.


"It needs cutting back".

"Remember last year we told you that tree needs cutting back?"


You get the picture.

Last week they had to come up to Town on business. They dropped in for lunch.

"Are you ever going to sort the tree out?"

FFS.

Eventually they left, promising to return at Christmas time, and do the damn job themselves. I am by nature an idle man. I am genetically full of inertia, but this sparked me into action.

I explained to MrsS62 that I was going to 'sort' out that tree "once and for all'...

"Why don't you wait for them to come back at Christmas" my wife (almost) pleaded.

No. I am the man of the house, and I will get it done.

So confident in my tree felling skills am I, that I decide I am going to do this by hand. No need to annoy the village with the sound of a chainsaw.

I soon start to see the results of my exertions...

View attachment 437030

"Take a photo of me and send it to Cornwall!"

I hack down another limb of the tree, and proudly send that image down to Cornwall.
View attachment 437031


"Tell your husband that he needs to level off those stumps. It is not symmetrical and looks a mess!"

By now I had (thinking the job was complete) packed up and was in my dressing gown.

"Not symmetrical?"

FFS. I will show her 'not symmetrical".

I hurl myself up the ladder with a handsaw and a bubble level. I will made the bastard things symmetrical...

View attachment 437032

Despite what the photo may imply, the bubble is 'on point'.

I send off that photograph to Kernow - pleased that I have demonstrated I know what I am doing.

Anyhoo.

This morning (in the dark), I walked the dog. By the time I returned home it was light.

This is what greeted me...

View attachment 437035


This is all I can see...

View attachment 437036
😖



I did say I am not a real arborist...
If I had done that job I would have been really proud of myself! ;)
 
@Norfolk Horn

The short answer is that I have no idea.🤔

The fact that the tree is too close to the garage is pretty much accepted by all who see it.

I suspect that any damage has already occurred. It may be that the next time I fire up the chainsaw, the two "fingers" will be coming off but I am not sure about the trunk?

One of the upsides to being old I guess: I suspect I will be long dead before this ever becomes a real drama.
Well it's your property but I would seriously get that sorted as things like that tree can have a very dramatic impact on future sale and value of your property
 
Well it's your property but I would seriously get that sorted as things like that tree can have a very dramatic impact on future sale and value of your property
@Norfolk Horn

I will probably have a nibble at it with the chainsaw at some later (not too distant) date.

Just curious.

If damage has been done - so be it.

Lopping (Pollarding) will inhibit future growth.

What benefit is there in removing the main trunk?

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Will this not cause further potential 'disruption' to the building?
 
@Norfolk Horn

I will probably have a nibble at it with the chainsaw at some later (not too distant) date.

Just curious.

If damage has been done - so be it.

Lopping (Pollarding) will inhibit future growth.

What benefit is there in removing the main trunk?

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Will this not cause further potential 'disruption' to the building?
Issue is that the tree and root system continue to grow. Trees extract a significant amount of water and willows are notoriously thirsty. With our climate being as erratic as it is at present, I'd say it was too close too. I'm minded of a tree my wife and I "extracted" from our first "money pit house" on my terminal leave, having resigned my commission back in 2001 - I was sooooo glad in later years we had got it out when we did.

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@Norfolk Horn

I will probably have a nibble at it with the chainsaw at some later (not too distant) date.

Just curious.

If damage has been done - so be it.

Lopping (Pollarding) will inhibit future growth.

What benefit is there in removing the main trunk?

View attachment 437114

Will this not cause further potential 'disruption' to the building?
Lopping can reduce moisture extraction from the soil and I have seen this done with trees with protection notices on.
If you don't have any damage at the present then that's good but that tree will definitely not do your property any favours unless the footing or slab have been designed with trees in close proximity.
Looking at that twisted willow I would assume that it was planted quiet a time after the property was build.
I'm certain not a tree hating old builder boy as I've planted literally hundreds of trees around my property and still do so.
There are so many factors involved with soil structure etc to understand.
If you are say on clay or peat and you have some signs of cracking/movement and you remove that tree you can then get heave with rehydration of that area, but say that tree has followed a seem that root mat can then rot forming a void but then it may not.
Well you've had my advise and the invoice is in the post 😊
 
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