Acceptable accuracy

If you can knock a grapefruit off the top of a fence post under field conditions, every time, you're good to go.

Chasing smaller groups is just using up ammo that could be killing deer.

Lots of people claim sub inch (or better) at 100 yards/200 yards etc, but I don’t believe that they can do it consistently under field conditions. If it were true then head shooting deer would be the norm.
Bloody Hell Tim have you seen the cost of grapefruits?
 
Off a bench or using a BogPod my ancient .270 Sako will make cloverleaf groups at 100 yds with my home-loads. Expecting that sort of performance 'in the field', off sticks, (or leant against a handy tree) with a varying cross-wind, frozen fingers and toes, and your eyes watering from the chill breeze would be lunacy. BUT, knowing the rifle will do the job and make bullets go where you point it gives you the confidence you want to take the 'real world' shots you need to take to put animals on the deck as quickly and humanely as possible.
It's one less variable. One less thing to consider or worry about when it comes to the most important shot of the day.

I'm not fool enough to claim I shoot all my deer exactly where I wanted to. I doubt anyone on SD would. There's often an inch or sometimes even two between where I thought I would hit it and where I did hit it, but they fall over just the same and taste just as good.
Spot on, I reckon off sticks I'm inch and a half or less reliably. Off a rest "sub MOA" but in the field its bit low, just lungs, or spot on heart and lungs, or neck. Thankfully I don't f@ck it up too often. I think practice and confidence in your rifle and round is key.
 
Never use sticks, hate the bloody things. Use bipod or the side of a tree.
Zeroing at 200yds very rarely shoot more than that off bipod.
.243 w 90 gr Sako, 2 in red 1 just above 1" squares. Well good enough for everything I shoot. Military tools were never that good in my day but targets were bigger.
 

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Never use sticks, hate the bloody things. Use bipod or the side of a tree.
Zeroing at 200yds very rarely shoot more than that off bipod.
.243 w 90 gr Sako, 2 in red 1 just above 1" squares. Well good enough for everything I shoot. Military tools were never that good in my day but targets were bigger.
Get yourself 4 B&Q sticks and a kit from @takbok

I’ve not used a bipod since I was shown quad sticks my AW many many moons ago,

Revolutionised my stalking and accuracy
 
Get yourself 4 B&Q sticks and a kit from @takbok

I’ve not used a bipod since I was shown quad sticks my AW many many moons ago,

Revolutionised my stalking and accuracy
Tried singles, twin, tripods, all quads from Blaser down. Sticks and me just aint compatible. Shot a thousand or two without and at my age I've said fck the sticks together with them thermal or digital things.
 
Hmmm.
Lots of interesting views about what is acceptable from a rifle but let’s stretch it a bit and factor in different scenarios especially YOU - the man or woman or….. behind the rifle ….
Sooo your firearm of choice is clearly lazer-like but what do you consider a shooter’s acceptable accuracy to be:-
1. Off the bench;
2. Off a bipod: and
3. Off sticks - twin, triple or quad?
Honest replies only chaps…
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I look for 1 moa whatever, as I know that anything worse is me. When I miss it’s me not the rifle, or if at the range, it’s something I have or haven’t done - but still me. Im more interested in where the first shot goes - get that right and no need for additional shots, because the quarry is down. The rest is pure entertainment.
 
Just a selection of my load development results over the past few years with various rifles and loads. Reloading with due diligence, care, patience and persistence will get you to where you want to be. The squares on the targets are 1inch square. I always try to get the best groups I can.

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it’s important to know what your rifle can achieve at different ranges. Here’s my .223 at 100, 250, 300, and 350 yards
 

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Prompted by a comment on another thread but for live quarry what do you define as “acceptable accuracy”?
It depends surely on the distance to target?

I use air rifles for head shooting squirrels in cage traps. The air rifle is about three inches away from the squirrel's head when I pull the trigger. I couldn't care less about how it groups but I do care about if it has the power to pierce the skull.

I'd guess if you were shooting deer or woild boar from a high seat at with an old .308 Parker Hale at, at most, twenty yards that a two inch group would be good enough? But by extrapolation that two inches at twenty yards is at best ten inches at one hundred yards and IMHO that is a rifle that needs scrapping.

Anyway here's an "accuracy" joke....

In late eighteen hundred and whatever maker of a new rifle is demonstrating it to some Generals. He sets up the then usual canvas screen target at the demanded distance of five hundred yards. A screen target was a canvas target six feet high and usually thirty yards or so wide. To represent a body of men advancing in column of attack.

He fires fifteen shots. All are within just a mere three feet of the chosen point of aim. A six foot group no less. At five hundred yards. Unheard of for the time!

He proudly says to the assembled military men that this shows his new rifle is superior to the current pattern. As the current pattern would have had its shots distributed all over the target. Some to the left edge some to the right edge, some in the middle, some to well either side of the middle. But his new rifle? A six foot group right in the centre no less!

"Harrumph!" exclaims the oldest General. "That's no good at all. As if at Waterloo I was a Frenchman on the left side of the column or the right side of the column I'd have been safe. Whereas with the current rifle it wherever I positioned myself in the column I wouldn't have been at all safe!"
 
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I'd guess if you were shooting deer or woild boar from a high seat at with an old .308 Parker Hale at, at most, twenty yards that a two inch group would be good enough? But by extrapolation that two inches at twenty yards is at best ten inches at one hundred yards and IMHO that is a rifle that needs scrapping.

That's because it's a .308, not because it's a Parker-Hale.
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