Licensing for Knife Sellers or Importers

[cjm1066]

If this was set up and managed properly, and applied to the correct folk/bodies, then I don't think it a bad idea.

But it won't be, so it is bad, which is shame as it is an opportunity to potentially make a difference.

Superficially it may not be a bad idea, but is it a sensible use of resources? Say Nationally 500 are employed to administer this system, would that be the most effective use of the manpower in enhancing public safety – could these 500 be deployed more effectively elsewhere in the criminal justice system?

Are retailors complying with the “Offensive Weapons Act 2019”? I have purchased 2 knives when the vendor didn’t comply, however one they are registered under this proposal will having their registration revoked be a bigger penalty than prosecution under the “Offensive Weapons Act 2019”, that is the premise of the proposal.

 

[cjm1066]

I have just read the supporting material and compleated the questionnaire. It's scarcely credible that this proposal will result in effective law.

Over the years I have sold a few knives privately so I will either register or give them away.

 

[Stephenbuck2489]

Allot to do with this article, ive just sat and watched a channel 4 police documentary called Zombie Knife for someone out of city life i never witness such events, but one thing it highlights is how Scared of letting my kids roam the streets i am!!
Especially after videos of 2 youths walking Edinburgh city centre last weekend with face coverings waving Machetes around in broad daylight!!!

 

[Monarch Country Products]

Just completed the consultation questionnaire.

Being a retailer of butchery equipment if this licensing proposal goes through it will have a significant impact on our business

 

[CookM]

Is every kitchenwear,supermarket,tool shop and hardware store going to have to do this.?
The Police will go into a spiral if having to administer it all.
Crazy to think they have the time?

 

[cjm1066]

I suspect if we thought about it we could produce a list of businesses that sell knives, then the local trading standards department could do a few random checks on their compliance with the law?

What next a register of those who sell screwdrivers, hammers or crowbars.

While we are divertering resources to the law abiding we are giving criminals an easier ride.

 

[Liveonce]

Is every kitchenwear,supermarket,tool shop and hardware store going to have to do this.?
The Police will go into a spiral if having to administer it all.
Crazy to think they have the time?

and if you read the consultation document they are suggesting the firearms licensing teams administer it.

 

[CookM]

and if you read the consultation document they are suggesting the firearms living teams administer it.

I did see that ,l doubt the FL teams will relish the extra duties.

 

[enfieldspares]

I have put this in the any other comment section. I beg, please, that others put similar:

The cost of administering the scheme must be wholly funded from its own fees and NOT by usurping the revenue that the police receive from firearms and shotgun fees.

 

[M@tt]

See my response above. Damned if this does come in that we as shooters should see the increased fees we now will be paying usurped to cover the administration of this by...as seemingly suggested...police firearms licensing departments.

The increased fees don't go directly to the FLD's bank acct.

They go into the relevant force's coffers and the distributed as the bean-counters see fit.

The FLD still get paid the same but now the force get more money for each FAC/SGC/RFD issued.

As far as certification goes, it's business as usual.

I doubt it will be any different for the revenue from knife licensing.

 

[maximus otter]

I’ve just completed the online questionnaire, telling our lords and masters how ridiculous this scheme is.

How about doing something about a joke of a legal system where only 31% of knife / offensive weapon offenders get a prison sentence?

maximus otter

 

[Bowland blades]

Lets be fair No Government could not run a business where they had competitors' . Restrictions on knives has not worked and it never will stop those with evil intent look at the war on drugs for instance .!
Every home has knives and even if we totally removed them ( like they did in prisons ) the inmates just improvised "shanks "
Note no knives are on the supermarket shelves because of all this BS postering
Knives and pointy things are perhaps mans earliest tools !

 

[Sampo]

Sorry, you cannot have buttered toast today, my knife license just expired and all the knives are in storage.

 

[sy247]

Completed

 

[ContinShots]

Haven't we got enough legislation already!
I only started quickly scanning through this tripe that would have very little effect on reducing "knife crime" and only inconvenience the law abiding when I got to-

3.7. We propose that the best body to administer the licensing system for knife and bladed article sellers is the police. The police have the relevant experience of running the firearms licensing scheme for Registered Firearms Dealers and can carry out the relevant suitability checks.

I fell off my chair laughing , the police already have a pretty poor track record in administering firearms licensing so lets give them something else to make a total bollocks of.

The Home Office is clearly full of deluded, naive clowns.

 

[ContinShots]

This proves even more that our Politicians do not live in our real world.

They're activist muppets living in a bubble, bankrolled by the taxpayer. They have absolutely no link with the real world. The extent to which the UK Government is now nannying the population makes you wonder just how quickly the UK will fold if ever attacked. Could you see the UK population putting up the fight that Ukraine did? Not a chance.The best most of the UK could do these days is have a group hug and try to push back invasion via a rousing chorus of kumbaya.

 

[ContinShots]

I have just coppied this from another forum, but should be of interest to people here.

Licensing for knife sales (accessible)

www.gov.uk

The high points are:

It will apply to private individuals as well as businesses.

It will apply to second hand sales.

It will apply to you buying from overseas retailers.

There will be vetting.

There will be a fee (renewable every 3 years).


If you care, please complete the consultation, consider writing to your MP and share with other groups you think might be interested.

As knives etc are not a reserved matter and the last round of knife bans only apllied to England & Wales, would this licensing scheme only apply to England & Wales?

 

[Klenchblaize]

and if you read the consultation document they are suggesting the firearms licensing teams administer it.

Coterminous?

K

 

[Stuart Mitchell]

All those areas I have marked in black need grinding away...

...terrible design flaw!

 

[Confidis]

Intelligence led stop and search would be the best way of decreasing stabbings.
Harsh sentencing.
Too many inconvenient truths.
Easy safe compliant non criminal targets of convenience like tradesmen with a leatherman would be the focus of the short fat current arm of the law .