Firearms fees hike - why you should contact your MP now

As always it was never about the handgun in was about winning the next election.

grandads sword needs a licence, as it leaves kids vulnerable, remove the point from kitchen knives.
like handguns the problem is not society but the article used.😡

 
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still no reply from my MP.

Has BASC got another email suggestion for if they never reply?
Perhaps phone the constituency office to chase it. And/or book to attend the MP surgery to relate your concerns verbally. Another approach is to email the MP again and this time ask for your concerns to be raised on your behalf with the policing minister requesting a response from the minister - that is a quest that MPs rarely ignore in my experience.
 
Contact with MPs is having an impact. MPs are joining forces to call on the Home Secretary to review the proposed fee increases and ensure police forces provide an efficient licensing service.

See for example two updates below:


 
A joint letter has been submitted to the Home Secretary from The Rt Hon Chris Philp MP Shadow Home Secretary, Sir Geoffrey Clifton Brown MP
Co-Chair of the APPG for Shooting and Conservation, Matt Vickers MP Shadow Minister for Police, Crime and Fire.

https://www.kevinhollinrake.org.uk/...1/30 Jan Letter to the Home Secretary (2).pdf

Here are the co-signatories:

The Rt Hon Stuart Andrew MP
Peter Bedford MP
Sarah Bool MP
Aphra Brandreth MP
The Rt Hon Suella Braverman MP
The Rt Hon the Earl of Caithness
The Lord Carrington
John Cooper MP
The Rt Hon Geoffrey Cox KC MP
Gareth Davies MP
Charlie Dewhirst MP
The Rt Hon Mark Francois MP
Richard Fuller MP
The Rt Hon The Lord Garnier KC
The Lord Geddes
Andrew Griffith MP
The Rt Hon the Lord Hamilton of Epsom
Kevin Hollinrake MP
Sir Bernard Jenkin MP
Alicia Kearns MP
Danny Kruger MP
John Lamont MP
Alan Mak MP
The Baroness Mallalieu KC
Kit Malthouse MP
Robbie Moore MP
The Lord Pearson of Rannoch
The Rt Hon Mark Pritchard MP
Shivani Raja MP
Jack Rankin MP
David Reed MP
The Lord Robathan
Jim Shannon MP
Dr Neil Shastri-Hurst MP
The Earl of Shrewsbury DL
David Simmonds MP
Greg Smith MP
Patrick Spencer MP
Gregory Stafford MP
Blake Stephenson MP
Bradley Thomas MP
Nick Timothy MP
Martin Vickers MP
Helen Whately MP
The Rt Hon Sir John Whittingdale OBE MP
The Rt Hon Sir Jeremy Wright KC MP
 
Text of letter:

The Rt Hon Yvette Cooper MP
Home Secretary
The Home Office
2, Marsham Street
London
SW1P 4DF

30 January 2025

Dear Yvette

Increase in firearms licensing fees

As Shadow Home Secretary and Chairman of the All-Party Parliamentary Group on Shooting
and Conservation, we along with our colleagues are writing to you regarding the recent
announcement of an increase in firearms licensing fees.

These are hugely exorbitant increases for our constituents and will put pressure on hundreds
of thousands of people in rural communities who have already suffered under your
government’s choices. You are increasing a shotgun certificate grant from £79.50 to £194 –
244% of the current fee, while a shotgun certificate renewal will increase from £49 to £126 –
257% of today’s fee. Inflation since 2015 has been 35%, meaning your increases are up to a
disproportionate 4.5 times inflation. This is wholly unjustified and only adds insult to injury
for the hard-working people in rural communities whose livelihoods your government has
already threatened.

The APPG have worked on this issue for many years, meeting Ministers and civil servants
during the last government to progress matters. We regret that you did not think it
necessary to consult or inform MPs, including the co-chair of the APPG Ben Goldsborough
MP, before announcing the increase and laying the order before the House.
We hope that you will therefore be willing to meet colleagues who are members of the
APPG to discuss the issue. The next meeting, on the 11th March from 5-6 p.m. in committee
room M in Portcullis House, will be considering the increases. We would be most grateful if
you were able to attend this meeting.

You will be aware of the gross inefficiencies in firearms licensing and the fact that those
applying for a certificate in a quarter of licensing authorities may have to wait up to two
years for their applications to be processed. This is appalling service. Moreover, under
resourced and overworked departments compromise public safety, the fundamental
purpose of firearms licensing.

The representations we have received from those who shoot focus on the following points:
they wish to see an effective and efficient firearms licensing system. They accept increased
fees to full cost recovery, if the increase is based on consultation and transparent
calculations and is used to fund firearms licensing departments. They tell me that none of
these have been met.

The rise in fees to full cost recovery was included in the Labour manifesto to fund youth
counselling, but this was not the justification used in recent statements to the House or in
the papers accompanying the Statutory Instrument. You have repeatedly told parliament
that the increased fees will be used to properly fund firearms licensing.

The use of firearms licensing fees is an operational matter for the police. Police budgets are
set by Police and Crime Commissioners, not the Home Office. Although we are aware that
the indicative amount of money available to rural police forces next year will leave them no
choice but to make staff redundant. As far as we are aware, there are no ministerial powers
to ensure that fees are used in this way.

We would be grateful to know how you can be sure that the increased fees will go to
firearms licensing departments. Did you seek and receive any assurances from PCCs to this
effect?

We are also told that consultation with stakeholders was limited and perfunctory, in contrast
to the increase in fees in 2015, when a Home Office committee, comprising the police and
shooting organisations, came to an agreed set of figures for fees. In this case, a Home Office
Working Group met only twice, the last occasion in May 2023, and came to no conclusions.
Questions on process put to the Home Office at that point remain to be answered. We
understand that you refused to meet the shooting organisations in the months following the
election and finally granted them half an hour, two days before laying the order before
parliament.

We would be grateful if you could set out how you intend to work with stakeholders on
firearms licensing in the future.

The papers accompanying the order state that the new fees are based on data gathered
from the firearms licensing departments of thirty-one police forces, but nothing is publicly
available which shows the calculations on which the figures are based. We are told that the
number of forces involved must include inefficient licensing departments with the effect of
increasing the figure for full cost recovery. You will know that there is no consistency in the
amounts that firearms licensing departments spend on issuing a certificate. The BASC review
of licensing in 2022 found that it cost Warwickshire £90 to issue a certificate but for Durham
it cost £500.

We would therefore, in the interests of transparency, be grateful if you could let us know
how each new fee was calculated.

There are further issues on firearms licensing which remain to be resolved. These include:
  • Removing sound moderators from the firearms licensing system, something supported by both the police and government, which would reduce the number of section 1 firearms by a third and thus reduce the workload for the police.
  • Ending the use by some constabularies of non-statutory forms, reducing the burden on licensing departments.
  • Ending superfluous land checks for section 1 firearms, reducing the burden on licensing departments.
  • Ringfencing the income for firearms licensing fees for firearms licensing departments.
  • Annual inflationary rises in fees, removing the need for massive increases, the latest averages 133%.
We look forward to working with you and your department to deliver an effective and
efficient firearms licensing system that protects public safety. We hope that you will be in
favour of continuing constructive engagement to that end.
 
Good work from BASC but the signatories seem like all Tories (and DUP) so will easily be dismissed as a party-political attack (and somewhat ironic given that they were in charge for 14 years during which the licensing system got abjectly worse)
 
My local MP is Green Party, not much point.
It's perhaps sometimes about finding common ground as a starting point. If you are in England you could explain the work you do in the MP's constituency managing deer and how that helps the local nature recovery strategy. Just search online for LNRS and your county name and a website will pop up. That local draft plan will likely have actions on deer control. BASC is getting involved in all 48 strategies getting across the positive role of shooting. Some background as follows:


Feel free to message me, happy to help with your email/letter if you wish to give it a go.
 
A joint letter has been submitted to the Home Secretary from The Rt Hon Chris Philp MP Shadow Home Secretary, Sir Geoffrey Clifton Brown MP
Co-Chair of the APPG for Shooting and Conservation, Matt Vickers MP Shadow Minister for Police, Crime and Fire.

https://www.kevinhollinrake.org.uk/sites/www.kevinhollinrake.org.uk/files/2025-01/30 Jan Letter to the Home Secretary (2).pdf

Here are the co-signatories:

The Rt Hon Stuart Andrew MP
Peter Bedford MP
Sarah Bool MP
Aphra Brandreth MP
The Rt Hon Suella Braverman MP
The Rt Hon the Earl of Caithness
The Lord Carrington
John Cooper MP
The Rt Hon Geoffrey Cox KC MP
Gareth Davies MP
Charlie Dewhirst MP
The Rt Hon Mark Francois MP
Richard Fuller MP
The Rt Hon The Lord Garnier KC
The Lord Geddes
Andrew Griffith MP
The Rt Hon the Lord Hamilton of Epsom
Kevin Hollinrake MP
Sir Bernard Jenkin MP
Alicia Kearns MP
Danny Kruger MP
John Lamont MP
Alan Mak MP
The Baroness Mallalieu KC
Kit Malthouse MP
Robbie Moore MP
The Lord Pearson of Rannoch
The Rt Hon Mark Pritchard MP
Shivani Raja MP
Jack Rankin MP
David Reed MP
The Lord Robathan
Jim Shannon MP
Dr Neil Shastri-Hurst MP
The Earl of Shrewsbury DL
David Simmonds MP
Greg Smith MP
Patrick Spencer MP
Gregory Stafford MP
Blake Stephenson MP
Bradley Thomas MP
Nick Timothy MP
Martin Vickers MP
Helen Whately MP
The Rt Hon Sir John Whittingdale OBE MP
The Rt Hon Sir Jeremy Wright KC MP
How many of these are labour please?
 
Mine is labour and has given the impression he is anti from previous correspondence, contacting them with your concerns is never pointless, especially if they have a slim majority, people seem to forget they work for us
Trouble is they also forget they work for us.

Fortunately my certificates have nearly five years to go, which is probably longer than this government has to go.
 
It's perhaps sometimes about finding common ground as a starting point. If you are in England you could explain the work you do in the MP's constituency managing deer and how that helps the local nature recovery strategy. Just search online for LNRS and your county name and a website will pop up. That local draft plan will likely have actions on deer control. BASC is getting involved in all 48 strategies getting across the positive role of shooting. Some background as follows:


Feel free to message me, happy to help with your email/letter if you wish to give it a go.

Conor, you are right apathy is our greatest enemy. I’ll review what you have sent me a give it a go.
 
Conor, you are right apathy is our greatest enemy. I’ll review what you have sent me a give it a go.
Thank you.
Apathy among shooters is sickening, look at any consultation regarding shooting, if you're lucky a few hundred will reply
It has always been the case - ranges from 1-5% of those reached to get involved but typically 1% - it is what it is and not unique to our sector and it's great that many are getting involved in this campaign and as a result support from MPs as regards our concerns are growing by the day.
 
Thank you.

It has always been the case - ranges from 1-5% of those reached to get involved but typically 1% - it is what it is and not unique to our sector and it's great that many are getting involved in this campaign and as a result support from MPs as regards our concerns are growing by the day.

Yes its such a shame more dont do more
Just a random though - i wonder if the organisations might do a preferable rate for "supporters" or those that do join the campaign ?
I might be off the mark but in this day and age its not hard to do but we just need to motivate people somehow and their pockets usually rule
 
Yes its such a shame more dont do more
Just a random though - i wonder if the organisations might do a preferable rate for "supporters" or those that do join the campaign ?
I might be off the mark but in this day and age its not hard to do but we just need to motivate people somehow and their pockets usually rule
Happy to hear/learn from examples from other sectors as regards policy related campaigns and pitch that to colleagues. Most major campaigns in our sector are BASC-led and many supporting them are not BASC members so that also needs to be taken into account.
 
Thank you.

It has always been the case - ranges from 1-5% of those reached to get involved but typically 1% - it is what it is and not unique to our sector and it's great that many are getting involved in this campaign and as a result support from MPs as regards our concerns are growing by the day.

I’ve emailed my Green Party MP, so we will see what response, if any, I get.
 
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