Add ons.

[sco_tish]

Longbow

 

[Ben_10]

Always glass for daytime, can't get on with digital. I have digital scopes for night and usually carry a pard 007 with me if I might stay out a little later

This is the setup I have been thinking about. What pard do you have please? Been told there not to good quality image with good glass? But haven’t had one to try on mine.

 

[Smellydog]

Another convert back to glass from digital. I put an Alpex 4K on my .243 and did not get on with it for some reason so I have put my GPO scope back on and use it for NV if needed with my pard back clip on (the second gen shorter model). For deer I just didnt get on with it compared to glass and for low light I can carry my pard clip on in my pocket and whack it on when needed.
Though to be fair for fox most of the time and rabbits I am using my .17 hornet with a pard thermal mainly as its stupidly light weight for walking around with.

To be honest the image quality from the Pard GPO combo with an IR laser at night is very good so all I lose off the 4K is the range finder and BC but with the .243 that is kind of irrelivant as I have a range finder on my thermal spotter.

Pardon my ignorance, what is a GPO?

 

[Greenmist]

Pardon my ignorance, what is a GPO?

German Precision Optics, scope brand

 

[Smellydog]

German Precision Optics, scope brand

Thank you.

 

[Greenmist]

This is the setup I have been thinking about. What pard do you have please? Been told there not to good quality image with good glass? But haven’t had one to try on mine.

I have an NV007S and an NV007SPLRF

 

[willowbank]

I'm constantly lamenting the loss of a scope . Nothing beats a scope for daytime use.
My Zulus is fantastic at night and not to bad in the day but never as good as glass.
My pard ds on the hmr is mediocre but ok.
Again I miss glass for daytime. Having to switch on and off, carry cells. Focus every shot. Bright sun and pixelation blah blah.

I'm constantly tempted to get a good add on.
A pard 007sp 4k maybe.
I had a 2k version but had it on a scope that would not come below 6x so it was difficult to acquire a target sometimes due to lack of fov from the add ons high base mag of 2x.

With hind sight I should of got a different scope.

Anyway, one doesn't hear much about add ons any more let alone the 007sp range.
My sytong 66 is getting on now but still delivers at night.
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I know one has to compromise shooting position of the head some but off sticks it's not so bad.

Has anyone else considered going back to a glass/ add on combination? Or is it just me?

Looks uncomfortable to say the least, I’ve had to set mine as far forward in the mounts and add a butt spacer… hate it but hey ho.

WB

 

[homer]

Keep hearing about vulpine mk3
Never seen one and lad stopped making them

They are good.

 

[homer]

Keep hearing about vulpine mk3
Never seen one and lad stopped making them

His website says 10-14 days lead time. Did he tell you direct, that he's stopped making them?

 

[nightcrow]

Thank you. Would 3x work?

My Sightron is 4x and I have never found it a handicap with a Ward 700 add on.

 

[tsuobi]

Keep hearing about vulpine mk3
Never seen one and lad stopped making

Bloody brilliant bit of kit. Just bought a second one off of an SD member. There was another member contacted me about me wanting one so there is another one available. Post a wanted add in the classified .
Plenty of video clips out there of the Vulpine in use for you to have a look at.

Fantastic image with the right scope and IR

What folks want is that and ballistic calculator with a range finding what's it and a recording facility for a couple of hundred pounds.
They get pixilated toss with a digital read out of how for the pixilated thing is for that money.

I'll go with great image quality , knowing my shooting grounds and ability and then rely on the thing between my ears to remember by thank you.

You got top customer service from LL too.
Andy at LL has stopped making them. He told me that.
But he has seen an increase in requests for them since. Increase the interest further and he might start up again.
There is nothing better add on wise out there than the Vulpine.

 

[sauer]

if using a left hand bolt action does the vulpine mounted foul the bolt ?

Paul

 

[Cottis]

if using a left hand bolt action does the vulpine mounted foul the bolt ?

Paul

There is a chance that it could foul on the knob that does it up but my knob (which is 3d printed) failed ages ago. I just replaced it with a philips head bolt which sits totally flush and allows (I always have a little victorinox knife in my pocket) it to be done up nice and snug and in my view is better than the original design. That way it definitely would not foul the bolt as both sides would effectively offer the same clearance and I have never had any issues on mine shooting Anschutz, Mauser and S&L rifles. It would have to be a very very high bolt lift to foul it I feel.

The joy of the Vulpine (apart from the optical quality when paired with the right scope and IR) is that it has a deep recess that fits over the ocular. So you can position quite a long way on to rear of the scope which makes for easy eye relief. On top of that, you do not have to fiddle with the diopter on your day scope as the Vulpine has a simple mechanical dial that moves the internal camera slightly so you can get the correct focus on the ocular lens in seconds. It is very basic but well thought out. One button, not focus fussy and you basically just turn on the Vulpine and IR torch and shoot.

 

[sauer]

thank you

 

[Mike1979]

Its all a pain in the backside...trying to get one thing that does everything....

I hate the change in eye relief/head position that rear add ons brings...and I had really bad results with a DFA75 front NV add on years ago so dont trust them (+ expensive).

Ive now ended up with a Thermal (Pulsar XM50) on the .243, a Zulu on the .17 HMR and QD Tier 1 monomounts on the Z6I and Alpex for the Creed. Havent chopped and changed yet as fitted the Z6I into the mount and zeroed the rifle yesterday so will see how POI looks when I put the Alpex back on.

I appreciate that many (myself included) dont like the view through digital during the day as its not as good...but its often good enough and a better all round compromise when you think that the view through a day scope at night is rubbish unless you use a lamp.