Possible fraud has anyone else dealt with this chap.

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vulpinehunter

vulpinehunter

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No names please.

I sold a scope £425 on .
Chap was not happy so started return.
EB refunded money he still has scope and refusing to send it to me.EB of course does not give a toss.

Has anyone else had similar experience.
Please do NOT put any names on here but if you have please could you let me have account name.
I am contacting fraud office in 10 days if he still has my scope, and they are interested to know if he has been doing this before..

Please pm me.
 
EBay should hold the money until he has returned the item. EBay should not have issued a refund until the item was returned.

Are you sure that eBay have not just held the money until the scope is returned. If the scope is not returned no refund.

Unless of course you clicked that the scope had been returned resulting in the refund being issued and you having no scope.

Without names, no one will ever know if anyone has dealt with the person.
 
EBay did that exact same thing to me. Never got my optics back and ended up with an eBay debt of £750. I refused to pay it, obviously, and they just put it to a debt collector hammering my credit record. I’m still refusing to pay it 3 years later !!! 😂

Chances are you are going to experience the exact same thing, or just eat the loss.
 
The banks may refund your money yes, but they certainly wont be looking to chase the OP in any way. I got scammed a deposit on Auto trader for £1000 and the bank didnt even ask for evidence at all, they had the bank details and that was it. You also have to wait 15 days after informing your bank of fraud to allow the OP time to pay it back and then you can submit your claim. Best is to always pay by credit card, that the best way for an refund.
 
vulpinehunter said:
No names please.

I sold a scope £425 on .
Chap was not happy so started return.
EB refunded money he still has scope and refusing to send it to me.EB of course does not give a toss.

Has anyone else had similar experience.
Please do NOT put any names on here but if you have please could you let me have account name.
I am contacting fraud office in 10 days if he still has my scope, and they are interested to know if he has been doing this before..

Please pm me.
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Presumably you have the name & address of the individual who purchased the scope in the first place. In which case, send them a nice polite letter, by recorded delivery, advising them that if they do not return your property within 14 days of receipt of the letter you will initiate formal recovery of the monies owed for its purchase. If the scope doesn't get returned put in a money claim online for the original purchase price paid plus the cost of posting it to the buyer.
 
Donkey Basher said:
Presumably you have the name & address of the individual who purchased the scope in the first place. In which case, send them a nice polite letter, by recorded delivery, advising them that if they do not return your property within 14 days of receipt of the letter you will initiate formal recovery of the monies owed for its purchase. If the scope doesn't get returned put in a money claim online for the original purchase price paid plus the cost of posting it to the buyer.
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Or go round to his house and pick it up. I’d drive eight hours if this had happened to me.
 
something doesnt add up here, what should of happened is once he started a return, he should of been told by ebay to send it back and add tracking info, once it was delivered back to you ebay would know then issue him a refund, iv never had any problems with ebay and always found them good on sorting things out,

i really cant see how this could of happened
 
The dishonest and unscrupulous can of course merely send an empty box of similar size and so obtain the required (by eBay) proof of posting of a returned item. As the Post Office accepts the package packed and wrapped without viewing its contents. Alas there are wicked people who know too well that way to game the system.

And ditto the postman will scan it as delivered. Which is why it was always taught to me when in "Goods Inwards" that when an item was signed for it was either signed for as "Contents Unexamined" or it rare cases where the packing was damaged you did in fact open the thing there and then before signing or refused it.
 
enfieldspares said:
The dishonest and unscrupulous can of course merely send an empty box of similar size and so obtain the required (by eBay) proof of posting of a returned item. As the Post Office accepts the package packed and wrapped without viewing its contents. Alas there are wicked people who know too well that way to game the system.
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it would also have to weigh the same, but lets not be giving folk the ways of ebay dishonesty, they will all be at it :)
this did actually happen to me about 20 years ago, id sold a camcorder and it was returned, well, the box with a lump of lead in it, this was before the days of ebay being so bothered,
this was also pre any gun licenses and as i had the guys address underhand measures were taken, and i was refunded in full.
as mimi maguire once said, there's more than one way to skin a c*&t:lol:
 
Donkey Basher said:
Presumably you have the name & address of the individual who purchased the scope in the first place. In which case, send them a nice polite letter, by recorded delivery, advising them that if they do not return your property within 14 days of receipt of the letter you will initiate formal recovery of the monies owed for its purchase. If the scope doesn't get returned put in a money claim online for the original purchase price paid plus the cost of posting it to the buyer.
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I have done this and sent several text that have been opened.
 
Just a quick word of warning about ebay scams in general. If you buy from a seller and the goods are damaged, not as described or just don't turn up and the seller offers to send out a replacement but says that to enable this you have to close the ebay case that you've opened don't do it. Once it is closed ebay won't reopen it even if the matter remains unresolved.
 
vulpinehunter said:
I have done this and sent several text that have been opened.
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In which case after 14 days open a money claim online. And, don’t forget, you can add the cost of making the claim to the amount you are trying to recover.

Once the 3rd party is notified they have 14 days to respond to the court. If they don’t respond within that time you request a judgement which is also done online & typically takes a couple of days. If it goes in your favour then the 3rd party will have a CCJ against them. You can then take that judgement to the High Court so you can get proper recovery agents to visit the guy & get back what’s owed.

Don’t, whatever you do, go around there yourself!

Edit: just seen he’s in Ireland - north or south? UK courts won’t be able to help you if he’s in Eire I don’t think.
 
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