Fitting s cabinet to timber frame house

[Scotty99]

Best to contact your FEO, show them the plans of what you are having built/converted and they will advise what they would be happy to approve. Get it confirmed in writing as FEOs change as do HO guidelines and you will need something to refer back to. If it were me I’d have a gun room put in with steel bars at the window and a steel internal door with wood finish for aesthetics. Have the gun cabinet installed in there with room for cleaning and reloading…..aah I’ve just woken up now.

 

[reiver]

I pattresssed. My attic trusses between them I used 8x 2 off cuts screwed between the timbers . Nb . Make the reinforced area bigger than you need to allow for extra cabinets in the future .

 

[Bo Diddley]

A friend had a tiny room built in the hall that took a 30"x78" standard door, the same as the others in the house, just big enough to take his cabinet and all his other shooting paraphernalia.
I made and fitted his staircases. When I asked what that little room was going to be, he had a smile as wide as the Mersey when he told me...
Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents Pi$$ Poor Performance.. If you are having building work done, it won't take much to get it right.

 

[ShovelyG]

I had a similar problem. I have Timber frame with underfloor heating so I couldn't use the floor either.
If you cut back some plaster so the cabinet is recessed half an inch and then use coach bolts to anchor the cabinet to an external load bearing wall you should be ok.
Recessing the cabinet you would make it hard some someone to get a crow bar behind it.

Best speak to your FAO as I did and they will advise you.

 

[Pard 007]

I would say aslong as it's secure should be ok. Would argue someone's more likely to cut it open with the universal cordless key. Than rip it off the wall and remove the whole thing. But you have to please the firearms officer.

 

[VSS]

Just think about what an FEO does when they come to inspect your cabinet:
They give it a bit of a tug to make sure it doesn't move, then look inside to make sure they can see the heads of at least 4 bolts.
And that's about it.
There's no need for you to overthink it.
Any one who really wanted to nick your firearms would simply cut through the door of the cabinet with a cordless grinder in a matter of minutes. They're not going to mess about trying to jemmy the whole safe off the wall and carry it off. That may have been the case years ago, but not now that cordless power tools are so good.

 

[msteel]

Timber lock screen will do the job that what mine was in with in my old house that was a wooden frame in the cupboard.l got 5 inches once though the plaster and into the wood it wasn’t going anywhere after putting 4 in the back and 2 in the sides as it was in a corner and 4 in the bottom into the floorboard

 

[Bavarianbrit]

I saw Americans putting a roller shutter door over the door into a mini room where the safe was located looks naff though, perhaps putting the roller shutter door on the inside side of the door if it was in a hall etc.

 

[243varmint]

Im looking at fitting a cabinet to a barn conversion but there are no solid walls only 6x2 studwork. Is there a way of doing this that will satisfy an FEO? I can access both sides of studwork as building isn't finished yet. Could i let a steel plate into the studs and bolt to that?

I had the same issue.
If you can gain access to the walls just reinforce the cavity. Fill in so its solid wood.
I did that and I've got two cupboards back to back so I fitted gun cabinets back to back with wall between and through bolted.
They'd have to chainsaw the house to get them out.

 

[Klenchblaize]

Consider some kind of monitored alarm system. If responded to its better insurance against theft than bolts of any size or steel cabinet thickness.

K

 

[Hollowlegs]

Just think about what an FEO does when they come to inspect your cabinet:
They give it a bit of a tug to make sure it doesn't move, then look inside to make sure they can see the heads of at least 4 bolts.
And that's about it.
There's no need for you to overthink it.
Any one who really wanted to nick your firearms would simply cut through the door of the cabinet with a cordless grinder in a matter of minutes. They're not going to mess about trying to jemmy the whole safe off the wall and carry it off. That may have been the case years ago, but not now that cordless power tools are so good.

It’s about time someone came up with either a super strong steel of Kevlar net for the inside of the cabinet so that if cut with a grinder instead of cutting through it would wrap around the grind wheel and stop it dead

 

[VSS]

It’s about time someone came up with either a super strong steel of Kevlar net for the inside of the cabinet so that if cut with a grinder instead of cutting through it would wrap around the grind wheel and stop it dead

Everything needs to be proportional to risk.
How many legally owned firearms get stolen each year? I'll wager it's very few.
If a criminal wants a gun, he (or she) can probably source one from the underworld far more easily than by breaking in to someone's house.

 

[Taff]

Vss is correct the guidelines regarding safes were only there to stop a burglar not someone intent on stealing a firearm, with a rechargeable cutter, in 10 minutes most safes are broken.

 

[HonestJohn]

No FEO is going to look at hour house construction! They’ll check its right up against the wall and they can’t get a pry bar behind it. And it can’t be pulled off (they’ll try!), it it stays where it is, they’re good. As @VSS says.