Unfortunately, not a single one of the manufacturers have listened to you so far with these latest models to be launched- perhaps that will change with the next evolution of NV for night time use.
Nocpix nite D70R
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The standard 4K sensors, the Pixels are tiny , 1/4 of the size of 1080P HD
Moving to a physically larger sensor, drives cost up, lowers base magnification, requires bigger lenses and makes the scope much more focus fussy.
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Whoever implents these changes for Night Vision , which is what 90% of users want, wins the game.
I mean this is talking about all manufacturer models from Sightmark ATN, HikMicro , NocPix, DNT Optics, it's not one specific manufacturer ...
HD Sensor, centre focus, dual turret, 70mm F1.4 lens, inline LRF with external low profile IR. Job done.
Saying that , all of the current models have fans across the board, they're all selling still in big numbers so the demand is still there for different customers needs.
Some want lightweight and opt for the Alpex Pro
Some want a sleek seemless design and large circular display and opt for the NocPix Nite
Pard Night Stalker , attracts high mag users
It's endless and one mans meat is another mans poison, but there is room for improvement on every model ...nothing is perfect yet.
The NocPix Nite is selling like hot cakes currently as is the Alpex Pro... it's anything but peak season, the demand is most certainly there still..
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Well there was nothing at the show, so never got to see the Pard 4k 2.0 or the Nite D70R so still none the wiser which to get, anyone have a image of the rets in the above scopes??
Erik Hamburger
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I received mine yesterday, and had (still have!) huge problems understanding the setting up, updating, WiFi connection etc. The manual and App just do not follow any logical sequence of a 'quick start' . That may be just down to me not understanding what others may see as logical and obvious.
I did get the full colour and NV pictures going, but I am quite disappointed with the full colour picture compared to a good glass scope. However, the NV image without additional IR illumination (taken towards dusk) seemed pretty good.
The few videos I have seen online are quite disappointing - but I already have a much higher spec IR Torch ready to pair with the scope, once I have set up the basics. That may do the job.
From what everyone says - this scope needs to be paired with the Wraith - anything else is likely to be sub optimal. The Nocpix Nite D70R is basically a dedicated 'Night ' scope, which is why it is called the night and aimed at fox shooters ( or those with a night licence ). If you want a digital Day / Dusk scope, we all know there is no match on the market as yet for the Hik Pro.
Not sure I would agree that the D70R is a dedicated night scope as its clearly a digital day/night scope like the other offerings ..regardless of whether it is better/worse. Also the "no match" comment about the Pro is maybe overstating the reviews for day time image. I appreciate some reviews say it has the edge on the Alpex 4K but not by much as far as I can see. Frankly none of the digital scopes have the edge on glass nor should they given their price point.
However, appreciate all this is very subjective and unless you buy all of them and compare you can only go off other peoples opinions.
Fair comments, however my opinion is evidence based on side by side comparisons on the same day / night under the same conditions with the models discussed. We all realise daytime, nothing beats glass - yet.
Good points. I dont think anything will beat glass for a while yet. I hate to think what AI enhanced scopes will be like ...but imagine humans wont be involved at that point ...
I have said it before there are some worried/confused chaps sitting the board rooms in Germany and Austria at the moment trying to determine where they go next with the traditional high end German optics that have been their bread and butter for 100 years or so. because at present for dawn and dusk a £500-800 offering outperforms a £3k scope by some margin.
For the first time in probably 100 years they now need to think a bit more “out the box” than just a slight improvement to a glass coating.
If the D70 Nite is a dedicated night vision scope then in my opinion Nocpix have failed in their first attempt. At best it could only match the DNT Zulus, although the Nite is probably more refined. Next time I get to look at the Zulus I will have a more in-depth look at the offerings.
I did manage to take a clear shot at a fox last night at 228 yards with the Nocpix and the the Wraith Esl, I think I was on 16 x mag. I was pretty p****d off when I missed! When I got home I found out why, the sound mod had unscrewed, not just a little bit but about 2 turns. First time that has happened in 45 years of firearms usage.
I did manage to take a clear shot at a fox last night at 228 yards with the Nocpix and the the Wraith Esl, I think I was on 16 x mag. I was pretty p****d off when I missed! When I got home I found out why, the sound mod had unscrewed, not just a little bit but about 2 turns. First time that has happened in 45 years of firearms usage.
I guess it it is difficult for us to see/know which way the digital day/night/fusion tech is going but there is still the apprehension of them going faulty at the wrong time (freezing, POI shift etc), compared to the basic functions of a glass scope for day use. The advancement of thermal front add on units and the reliable/repeatable QD attach/detach systems like the Rusan Mar also make the traditional glass scope a continued attractive prospect.
" Nothing beats glass yet "
I dont think it will either ....
And I love my glass ..nothing better than details and natural sight picture on summers evening is amazing
But what said about 500 to 800 quid digital let's you shoot when glass given up in evening, or not there yet in morning
Caveat being as long as your within legal hours before / after sunset sunrise
( could be shaded woodland )
Add to that if you do bit of rabbiting or foxing
Then your quids in over glass and practicality versatility wise.
For those who still love their glass a digital add on still an option .like original pard 007 with vcsel onboard
I'd like to see thru updated version bit they all led not vcsel ...id prefer like the v1 or v2 zulu
Vulpine mean to be good but not onboard ir and not available new and its handed so lesss likely for left hand bolt
I'd like to see new version of original pard 007 with onboard vcsel andd newer specs
Paul
I dont think it will either ....
And I love my glass ..nothing better than details and natural sight picture on summers evening is amazing
But what said about 500 to 800 quid digital let's you shoot when glass given up in evening, or not there yet in morning
Caveat being as long as your within legal hours before / after sunset sunrise
( could be shaded woodland )
Add to that if you do bit of rabbiting or foxing
Then your quids in over glass and practicality versatility wise.
For those who still love their glass a digital add on still an option .like original pard 007 with vcsel onboard
I'd like to see thru updated version bit they all led not vcsel ...id prefer like the v1 or v2 zulu
Vulpine mean to be good but not onboard ir and not available new and its handed so lesss likely for left hand bolt
I'd like to see new version of original pard 007 with onboard vcsel andd newer specs
Paul
Erik Hamburger
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What shall I say....
I finally received my scope this week, pre-ordered around November '25.
Confusing and ambiguous instructions and App - but that me just be me....(?)
Daylight picture quality very disappointing compared to a normal glass scope. I knew and expected it to be not as good, but this is really not great.
A brief test of NV (at dawn, last light) , picture quality EXCELLENT- without additional IR torch. I purchased this scope mainly for twilight/night use so that is good news. I also have a premium IR torch and a much better torch mount than supplied by NocPix - so I was looking forward to finishing my setting up. Sadly I never had the chance....read on:
The Laser Range Finder is, I believe, faulty. It ranges some dwellings that are some 200 meters away as '85 meters' (?).
When I finally mastered to get the WiFi connection and App linked to the scope I did the Firmware Update.
Since the Firmware update I cannot turn the scope on anymore! So this scope has died. Very annoyed. I will contact my retailer to discuss.
A return and a refund- or buying an other brand/model now looks like the only solution. I don't think I am keen on an exchange for another one, if that is offered.
I finally received my scope this week, pre-ordered around November '25.
Confusing and ambiguous instructions and App - but that me just be me....(?)
Daylight picture quality very disappointing compared to a normal glass scope. I knew and expected it to be not as good, but this is really not great.
A brief test of NV (at dawn, last light) , picture quality EXCELLENT- without additional IR torch. I purchased this scope mainly for twilight/night use so that is good news. I also have a premium IR torch and a much better torch mount than supplied by NocPix - so I was looking forward to finishing my setting up. Sadly I never had the chance....read on:
The Laser Range Finder is, I believe, faulty. It ranges some dwellings that are some 200 meters away as '85 meters' (?).
When I finally mastered to get the WiFi connection and App linked to the scope I did the Firmware Update.
Since the Firmware update I cannot turn the scope on anymore! So this scope has died. Very annoyed. I will contact my retailer to discuss.
A return and a refund- or buying an other brand/model now looks like the only solution. I don't think I am keen on an exchange for another one, if that is offered.
It seems like just the scope for the use you required to be fair - perhaps there is something you are missing as the scope is new to you. Maybe worth considering what the retailer has to say before jumping ship. I seems that all new scopes have a learning curve and 1 or 2 things that need addressing that can be resolved quite swiftly - that has been the case with several Hik Pro's amoungst others. I hope it comes good for you, as I was planning to buy the same D70R.
Erik Hamburger
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Thank you , and good points. It did work - but after the Firmware update it stopped working! Bizarre. I will discuss with the retailer - and yes I agree that once a new E-scope had been field-tested and the manufacturer gets the opportunity to improve the Firmware, it is likely to become fit for purpose.
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