Starmer gets a gun

[Rake Aboot]

Gifted a personalised handgun in Turkey with ammunition

Decided not to bring it back until it’s decommissioned

You’d think the home office would be able to sort that out for the PM !

Ridiculous

 

[Smellydog]

Gifted a personalised handgun in Turkey with ammunition

Decided not to bring it back until it’s decommissioned

You’d think the home office would be able to sort that out for the PM !

Ridiculous

I can just see the horror on his face! Probably soil himself just touching it!

 

[Pine Marten]

No they're not able to sort that out. There is a sword gifted by the Saudis during the first Gulf War in the Cabinet Meeting Room in 10 Downing Street that has to be displayed there as a museum exhibit permanently as the scales on the grip are made of modern ivory, which is illegal. I think it's admirable that our institutions apply the law to all.

The law is the law is the law.

 

[Demetrius]

If only......

D.

 

[Cranborne]

Decided not to bring it back until it’s decommissioned

Andy Burnham will be relieved.

 

[enfieldspares]

No they're not able to sort that out. There is a sword gifted by the Saudis during the first Gulf War in the Cabinet Meeting Room in 10 Downing Street that has to be displayed there as a museum exhibit permanently as the scales on the grip are made of modern ivory, which is illegal. I think it's admirable that our institutions apply the law to all.

The law is the law is the law.

Interestingly enough, which not a lot of people know, UK Prime Ministers can keep gifts. As personal property but have to declare them. But US President's cannot. Their gifts become property of "the people"...thus the gifte airplane to Trump. Back when two "JC" weave suits were made for Jim Callaghan and Jimmy Carter the one Carter was give had to go into some sort of archive. 1977 it was. Versions are Carter gave Callaghan the cloth which Callagha the had made into matching suits for him and Carter?

 

[enfieldspares]

Here it is or one similar to those given apparently. Sarsilmaz SR 38.

Erdogan gifts every NATO leader an engraved revolver and a box of live ammunition - Türkiye Today

Erdogan presents every NATO leader at the Ankara summit with a revolver engraved with their name and a box of live ammunition

www.turkiyetoday.com

 

[Rake Aboot]

The home office can authorise politicians in Northern Ireland to have handguns for self defence but they can’t authorise the British Prime Minister to hold a handgun


I have my doubts about that .

 

[enfieldspares]

The home office can authorise politicians in Northern Ireland to have handguns for self defence but they can’t authorise the British Prime Minister to hold a handgun


I have my doubts about that .

There are a few, very very very few, Great Britain residents who have such but they tend not to be people who would qualify for a government supplied protection officer. Yet are still thought to be "at risk". So Starmer as he qualifies for a protection officer would likely not be granted a PPW unlike his direct counterpart politician in Northern Ireland.

 

[JonR]

It could easily be brought back through diplomatic bag, and transferred under MOD Crown Exemption mechanisms to the Royal Armouries. No need to include the HO at all.

 

[Elshad]

Pretty sure this would have qualified for Section 7.3…

 

[WW.]

There will have been a way, but presumably no will.

 

[Bo Diddley]

I can just see the horror on his face! Probably soil himself just touching it!

I'm imagining the scene from Braveheart, where Longshanks throws his son's lover, Phillip, from the window... Prince Edwards "Look of horror"
Great film.

 

[enfieldspares]

It could easily be brought back through diplomatic bag, and transferred under MOD Crown Exemption mechanisms to the Royal Armouries. No need to include the HO at all.

However maybe KS actually wanted to keep it and so deactivation was the only way around?

 

[WW.]

You never know, this might spark a broader conversation about firearms legislation being so restrictive. Unlikely but who knows.

I do agree with the earlier point regarding at least the law is being applied to all. Of note to me is that it is apparently being decommissioned out there which, to my mind, could suggest that he wants to keep it.

 

[JonR]

However maybe KS actually wanted to keep it and so deactivation was the only way around?

Good point

 

[JonR]

If it's decommissioned out there, it will still need to go to the UK proof house, to ensure it complies with modern standards.

 

[timbrayford]

Gifted a personalised handgun in Turkey with ammunition

Decided not to bring it back until it’s decommissioned

You’d think the home office would be able to sort that out for the PM !

Ridiculous

Looks like someone in Turkey was offering him an honourable way of stepping down?

 

[maximus otter]

It’s best that it be deactivated, foot injuries take forever to heal.

maximus otter

 

[Liveonce]

Here it is or one similar to those given apparently. Sarsilmaz SR 38.

Erdogan gifts every NATO leader an engraved revolver and a box of live ammunition - Türkiye Today

Erdogan presents every NATO leader at the Ankara summit with a revolver engraved with their name and a box of live ammunition

www.turkiyetoday.com

that’s because he knew how desperate this country is to provide the army with the equipment they need