.222 legal for roe in Scotland?

[Mungo]

Probably a very stupid question: am I right in thinking that .222 is legal for roe in Scotland?

I had thought so, but have just read a few things that made me doubt myself.

 

[Cut+Squirt]

Probably a very stupid question: am I right in thinking that .222 is legal for roe in Scotland?

I had thought so, but have just read a few things that made me doubt myself.

Yes legal, and not only that very well thought of on roe along with its stable mate the .223

 

[Mungo]

Great - I thought so.

Never trust what you read on the internet!

So - variation for a .222 going in soon. Used it a lot in South Africa on steenbok and springbok - really rate it. Any suggestions for a make/model to look out for here?

 

[sikadog]

222 Is legal to shoot Roe in Scotland what made you think not.

 

[finnbear270]

Yes legal, and not only that very well thought of along with its stable mate the .223

And your old .223, (The Howa), (My stopgap while getting a rebarrel), is doing sterling service with Fenlander, on munties etc according to the man!

 

[Aqueous Osprey]

Deer Scotland Order does not state a minimum calibre of rifle for shooting roe deer. It stipulates a bullet weight of at least 50 grains of expanding ammunition and a minimum MV of 1700.

 

[patrickt]

Probably a very stupid question: am I right in thinking that .222 is legal for roe in Scotland?

I had thought so, but have just read a few things that made me doubt myself.

Mungo, yes you can use a .222, Scottish law: for Roe Deer only. you MUST use a bullet of a weight no less than 50 grains, which will deform in a predictable manner (soft point), with a muzzle energy of 1,000 ft lbs, and muzzle velocity of not less than 2,450 feet per second Good luck!!

 

[Cut+Squirt]

And your old .223, (The Howa), (My stopgap while getting a rebarrel), is doing sterling service with Fenlander, on munties etc according to the man!

I wish I had never sold that .223 . . . . . . .I get regular pangs for another 223 or 222

 

[pendle]

and your old .223, (the howa), (my stopgap while getting a rebarrel), is doing sterling service with fenlander, on munties etc:-d according to the man!

do what finn did and get a .223 with a 1 in 8 twist [if i am right] you can use heavier rounds.then again i got rid of my .223 for a 22.250. And gone loud and proud lol.

 

[Mungo]

Deer Scotland Order does not state a minimum calibre of rifle for shooting roe deer. It stipulates a bullet weight of at least 50 grains of expanding ammunition and a minimum MV of 1700.

See, this is where I started to get confused. The wording I've seen states 50 grain bullet, muzzle velocity of 2450 feet per second and muzzle energy of 1750 foot pounds. And my understanding of .222 ballistics was that thier muzzle energy was around 1100 ft. lbs.

Am I missing something?

 

[MauserM03]

There appears to be confusion over (1) the requirements for ALL deer species in Scotland and (2) the requirements for Roe specifically / only:

FROM BASC
For roe deer, where the bullet must weigh at least 50 grains AND have a minimum muzzle velocity of 2,450 feet per second AND a minimum muzzle energy of 1,000 foot pounds may be used.
For all deer of any species - the bullet must weigh at least 100 grains AND have a minimum muzzle velocity of 2,450 feet per second AND a minimum muzzle energy of 1,750 foot pounds.

http://www.basc.org.uk/en/codes-of-practice/deer-stalking.cfm

Mauser M03

 

[Mungo]

Aha!

That's where I went wrong. Read the wrong bit. I love making a fool of myself in public...

Thanks for the quick and useful replies folks.

 

[Jimbo 30 06]

Probably a very stupid question: am I right in thinking that .222 is legal for roe in Scotland?

I had thought so, but have just read a few things that made me doubt myself.

Yes legal for Roe in Scotland i use mine regularly. I can recommend the Tika T3 Hunter and if you homeload 55grn Sierra Game Kings code 1365 in Sierra bullet list. Hope this helps.

Jimbo

 

[nowler]

superb caliber, but a .223 would give you a little more versatility.

 

[6pointer]

Got to agree with nowler the .223 is just that wee bit more flexible. I love mine but must admit to loving my old .222 also good luck.

 

[bigoak]

Whilst I have never shot a roe,I have shot fallow and plenty of goats with 222 and 223. I can't see why it wp
Wouldn't be perfect for roe. My favoured 222 was a L461 hb. I recently sold to a friend. I also have a skinny ruger 223 with a 1:9 twist barrel. Shoots great with 60 gn horny sp.

 

[bigoak]

Will add I shot a few goats with my wierauch 22 k hornet. All no fuss. Wouldn't take a 200 m shot across a gully with it though.

 

[Uncle Norm]

See, this is where I started to get confused. The wording I've seen states 50 grain bullet, muzzle velocity of 2450 feet per second and muzzle energy of 1750 foot pounds. And my understanding of .222 ballistics was that thier muzzle energy was around 1100 ft. lbs.

Am I missing something?

Mungo. Look at partickt's post he is correct. In Scotland no minimum calibre is metioned. There are two specifications, which is where you are becoming confused.
For deer of any species a rifle firing a bullet of at least 100 grains with a muzzle velocity of at least 2450 feet per second and a muzzle energy of at least 1750 foot pounds is required.
For Roe deer only the specification is minimum bullet weight of 50 grains, minimum muzzle velocity of 2450 feet per second and a minimum muzzle energy of 1000 foot pounds. Calibre is not mentioned. To achieve 1000 foot pounds of muzzle energy with a 50 grain bullet a muzzle velocity of just over 3000 fps is needed. That is the formula for the .222 Remington. If you use the .222 Rem with 50 grain bullets you should be fine.
Good luck.

 

[wattygun]

need to learn how to shoot fist cadex100 /??????

 

[Cut+Squirt]

need to learn how to shoot fist cadex100 /??????

I'm like John Wayne, shoot from the hip!