Fed up with Butler Creek Flip Ups?

jon2

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Dear all

Anyone who knows me will also know that a pet hate of mine is the poor quality of the more recently manufactured Butler Creek scope covers. So much so I have had a wrangle with Bushnell Customer Service (the parent company of Butler Creek) for the last 3 months, after explaining the issues I have had with their newly manufactured scope covers over the last couple of years.

After 8 phone calls and 10 emails I managed to get them to send to me (FOC) some of their newly designed "Tactical covers" which are a new addition to their product line. Not a replacement for the original scope covers but a but an addition. As an aside they have said they are aware of the issues with the more recently manufactured covers and they have taken measures to rectify this. They went onto say that the new ones are as good as the originals we all know and love. I can't comment on this as I don't have any of the new ones to review.

Anyway the picture below is of one of the poorly manufactured covers. In fact the one pictured doesn't even close shut and is brand new (this was the final straw for me and led me onto the path I have explained above).



I had been using the Weaver Polar caps as a substitute for the BC Flip Opens and although they didn't fail at the hinge, unless the rand was secured with insulation tape, they could (and have) slipped off in field usage. Also the lens can ping out but this has not happened on the one I have. It has however happened to one of my brother's same covers.

See below:





After badgering Bushnell CS (wasn't easy but I was on a mission) they agreed to send a couple of their newly designed Tactical covers to me from the US, FOC as a gesture of goodwill. I had explained to them I had been through approximately a dozen of their newly manufactured original covers which were, in my opinion, not fit for purpose.

Out of the covers I am going to talk about, these to me are the most interesting. The reason being is they are fit for purpose, I challenge anyone to break them under normal usage and they are cheap ($12.99 from Cabelas). They do not have a metal spring but they do spring open however not with the same pleasing enthusiasm perhaps as the originals.









They are made of a slightly different material (difficult to put into words but seems a much more durable material) to the originals and certainly the newly manufactured originals and in my opinion they have got it 100% spot on with this new design. They fit well too, however I am told by Bushnell that they are only available in limited sizes. The one pictured fits my 50mm NXS and is the largest size they currently produce.

I have saved the best until last and below are a scope cover manufactured by a company called Tenebraex and are truly superb! I was put onto these by Thomas Haugland. He is the man and I can see why he uses these himself. I ordered a couple of these for 2 scopes and received them a couple of days ago. They come in two parts and are designed to milspec standards. Actually Tenebraex sell them to attach to their ARD's (Anti Reflextion Device) but obviously for civi useage not a requirement. If you do not have one of their ARD's fitted to the objective housing of your scope you need an adapter ring. The adapter ring is threaded! It screws into the sunshade/ARD threads of the objective housing. I was amazed when I took it out of the packaging at this feature and very impressed. You screw the adapter in and then click on to this, the cover itself.




Rather than me type more words about how they actually operate, please see below a clip I found on the internet which provides a demo of operation and one of their excellent design features which is the fact the cover will rotate on the adapter:


http://vimeo.com/m/54965189


The downside (if you could say there is one) is that they are expensive. The two covers and adapters (ordered form Eurooptics - excellent outfit in the US) cost me, all in with postage and customs charges £120. Are they worth it? Well it depends how you look at it. I have been through, as I said previously, a dozen or so BC's which cost me around £12 each. I won't insult anyone's intelligence by doing the sums. The Tenebraex's are truly excellent and are of uber quality. They spring open like the old BC's but are far more durable. The other issue is that they only make them for 50 and 56mm Schmidts and 50 and 56mm NXS scopes. I use both of these makes so fine but if you don't I'm not sure they will fit. They may do but as the adapter screws into the sunshade/ARD threads it depends of course of whether the manufacturer has a threaded end/inner to the housing.

Apologies for the poor quality photographs taken on my iPhone.

KR
JB
 
All of use poor B.....ers should take out a "class action" against Butlers Crap, the covers are NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE, just read all the previous threads on this one!!
 
I don't know Deer Man. I can't help you there.

​Perhaps contact Tenebraex direct?
 
Wow £120 I'm glad my new Schmidt 3-20 comes with the tenebraex's from the factory!

That is very interesting P3T3R and excellent a quality company such as Schmidt are issuing them as standard now. I have to say that in a way, although excellent they seem expensive for what they are. However as I say it can become a false economy if the BC's are having to be constantly replaced through failure.

​I reckon the Tenebraex's you have now will last a lifetime.
 
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Had a couple Weaver type and BC. Mostly don't last a day and I am sick of spending money on these.
I've fitted a few of my scopes with the original covers cut short.
This one is on the K624i
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Had a couple Weaver type and BC. Mostly don't last a day and I am sick of spending money on these.
I've fitted a few of my scopes with the original covers cut short.
This one is on the K624i
scopecap_zps0066de68.jpg

I've tried that ejg too and though innovative it is a compromise.
 
Thank you for the great review jon2. It is great to get such great first hand info.

do you know if the tenebraex for the s&b pmii will also fit the 8x56?
 
Thank you for the great review jon2. It is great to get such great first hand info.

do you know if the tenebraex for the s&b pmii will also fit the 8x56?

Thank you Caorach

Yes I am sure it will. Probably best to check with Euro Optics but I am certain the 56mm 8 x 56 has a thread to accept a sunshade and if it does it will fit.

I have 2 x Schmidt 50mm and they fit them so as I say I'm sure it will be a yes.

KR
Jon
 
Had a couple Weaver type and BC. Mostly don't last a day and I am sick of spending money on these.I've fitted a few of my scopes with the original covers cut short.This one is on the K624i
scopecap_zps0066de68.jpg
Superb idea top marks,Glendine.
 
And for those fortunate to own a Swarovski with 56 mm objective, Swarovski have released their threaded flip up cover for an eye watering £55! Cheers, K
 
Cabela's won't sell the Butler Creeks to the UK, which is a shame as my mates over in the USA say they are much better than ours! I will have to beg someone to send me some ;)

Shame that Tenebraex dont make scope covers for all S&B scopes!

Simon
 
Simon

Which model of Butler Creeks will Cabelas not send?

The Tenebraexs will fit 50 and 56mm Schmidts. I take it you have a 42mm objective?

KR
Jon
 
I've got fed up buying Butler Creek covers - very poor quality - snap as easily as the twigs I try not to tread on when sneaking through the woods! :-D
 
Simon

Which model of Butler Creeks will Cabelas not send?

The Tenebraexs will fit 50 and 56mm Schmidts. I take it you have a 42mm objective?

KR
Jon

Jon,

I looked at the flip up versions, like we can buy, put them in my basket, went to pay for them and it all came over red on the screen telling me they couldn't ship them.

The Tenebraex's look good for the objective lens, but what about the ocular?

​And I have the 2.5-10x56 Klassic

Simon
 
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