Amazing Photo
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Cootmeurer
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As a bow hunter that has killed more than a few that way, I am very skeptical of the pic.
If (IF) it is real, it was someone using decades old equipment (the broad head and arrow suggest 1970s vintage) which would suggest random kit pulled from a closet. To have that poor of penetration (nearly all of my shots, through the chest and often at least one scapula are complete pass throughs) one would be shooting a very old and low poundage recurve or long bow. Somewhat like finding a deer shot with a black powder loaded Henry Martini rifle.
now, the serious skepticism. Coat looks summer red, buttons on skull suggest young of year buck which should have been sporting at least a bit of antler by fall seasons. Furthermore, arrow is rather large in comparison to deer head, and broad head is absolutely massive. More questions than proof for me.
If (IF) it is real, it was someone using decades old equipment (the broad head and arrow suggest 1970s vintage) which would suggest random kit pulled from a closet. To have that poor of penetration (nearly all of my shots, through the chest and often at least one scapula are complete pass throughs) one would be shooting a very old and low poundage recurve or long bow. Somewhat like finding a deer shot with a black powder loaded Henry Martini rifle.
now, the serious skepticism. Coat looks summer red, buttons on skull suggest young of year buck which should have been sporting at least a bit of antler by fall seasons. Furthermore, arrow is rather large in comparison to deer head, and broad head is absolutely massive. More questions than proof for me.
howa243
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Very true, although I had no idea a headshot was really an option with a bow. If it was not a deliberate headshot then its a big miss.
Yes bowhunters should go for a boiler room shot, thats where broadheads are designed to get and cause damage.There are a few possibilitys of what may of happened even if the picture is fake or not.
1. The hunter thought he was capable of pulling off a head shot when he wasn't.
2. The hunter thought he had a clear shot but didn't see an obstacle and caught a deflection.
3. His equipment had a fault letting him down a the crucial time.
Im sure there are many more reasons, but the above applies to all forms of shooting.
The picture shows how animals can survive horrific injuries. As i have said before,there is a lot less contamination with broadhead wounds.
Heather Hugger
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Another image of it, with 4 plus images of the same deer it might be real. or someone has gone to a lot of effort to fake it.
rick6point5
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Looks real to me Magnus, zwickey, stos and many others all make traditional blades of this shape and size for hunting, length of fletching & degree of helical twist suggest traditional bow, i would speculate a deflection or the animal jumped the string ie heard the release and moved. i would also say that i have never met with a bow hunter who would take a head shot as they in the main understand how their equipment is designed to work.
Cootmeurer
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Rick6.5,
it is definitely a zwickey, green coating is a give away. However, the arrow is a very large diameter aluminum in a rather old camo pattern. Additionally, the fletching is 5" or greater. All in all it suggested a very old bit of tackle. If I made the assumption it was all tru, then I would guess this is the work of a youth that dug out a very old kit from the back of grandpa's closet, and let fly at a very urban deer that was not afraid. Further, the shot angle suggests a shot from the ground, not a high seat. Since the huge majority of American bow hunters hunt from a high seat (we call them tree stands) again this would suggest a complete novice, possibly even shooting out of season.
it is definitely a zwickey, green coating is a give away. However, the arrow is a very large diameter aluminum in a rather old camo pattern. Additionally, the fletching is 5" or greater. All in all it suggested a very old bit of tackle. If I made the assumption it was all tru, then I would guess this is the work of a youth that dug out a very old kit from the back of grandpa's closet, and let fly at a very urban deer that was not afraid. Further, the shot angle suggests a shot from the ground, not a high seat. Since the huge majority of American bow hunters hunt from a high seat (we call them tree stands) again this would suggest a complete novice, possibly even shooting out of season.
s threlfall
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It doesn’t look fake to me albeit I suspect I’m no more or less experienced in arrow wounds than most SD members.
I certainly don’t have a problem in understanding how the arrow head may look so uncontaminated as it wouldn’t take much to clean up and mindful we don’t no for sure how long the beast has been carrying it.
Whatever the actuality its a lesson to us all that poop happens and head shots with bow or rifle may easily go very badly wrong.
K
I certainly don’t have a problem in understanding how the arrow head may look so uncontaminated as it wouldn’t take much to clean up and mindful we don’t no for sure how long the beast has been carrying it.
Whatever the actuality its a lesson to us all that poop happens and head shots with bow or rifle may easily go very badly wrong.
K
j0e_bl0ggs
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Search the web for the 'complete' story and you will see the evidence that no broad head was used as depicted.
I forgot about this but was a true event chaps!! Vid link below!!
Arrow removed from deer in Rockaway Twp. NJ | Video | wtsp.com
Arrow removed from deer in Rockaway Twp. NJ | Video | wtsp.com
j0e_bl0ggs
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Gullible, no damage from a broad head.
inexperience hunter i would say...
deerly departed
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it is as undesirable as a gut shot or a jaw shot with a bullet.
You just don't get to see the bullet fragments where you get to see the arrow. This photo could quite easily be genuine though I would have expected some blood loss..
This is either an archer taking on a shot that they were not capable of taking or maybe they had equipment failure.
Bearing in mind the differing velocities and the range, plus the need to move a lot to take the shot, the archer faces a lot more issues than a stalker with a rifle.
However, do not be mistaken as to the efficiency that the bow has in despatching quarry - especially the modern compound bow.
At 100 yards, the archer would be able to shoot as well as a an average rifleman and with a triple or quad head arrow tip, a strike will be typically a game over scenario.
They work in different ways as the arrow will pretty much rely on bleeding out and a follow up.
I actually think - bearing in mind that the UK has such an immense history with the bow for hunting and warfare, that the bow maybe should still be a hunting tool.
But that's another topic.
This is just sensationalistic..........
You just don't get to see the bullet fragments where you get to see the arrow. This photo could quite easily be genuine though I would have expected some blood loss..
This is either an archer taking on a shot that they were not capable of taking or maybe they had equipment failure.
Bearing in mind the differing velocities and the range, plus the need to move a lot to take the shot, the archer faces a lot more issues than a stalker with a rifle.
However, do not be mistaken as to the efficiency that the bow has in despatching quarry - especially the modern compound bow.
At 100 yards, the archer would be able to shoot as well as a an average rifleman and with a triple or quad head arrow tip, a strike will be typically a game over scenario.
They work in different ways as the arrow will pretty much rely on bleeding out and a follow up.
I actually think - bearing in mind that the UK has such an immense history with the bow for hunting and warfare, that the bow maybe should still be a hunting tool.
But that's another topic.
This is just sensationalistic..........
I head shot a goat one day. Took the whole front of its face off and it was running away, infection or trauma may have killed it within the hour? Fortunately I managed a second shot to the shoulder which killed it instantly. These things can happen and I would be more then surprised to find out anyone mature or sane would intentionally wound any animal in such a way...
howa243
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Really?
rick6point5
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Sorry to completely disagree but there is not a chance in hell that 100yd shot taken with bow is as accurate, its absolute nonsense suggesting it, especially here, i am afraid to say it shows a clear lack of knowledge. Also glibly commenting that 3 blade or 4 blade is game over also shows misunderstanding of the actual facts. Broad head tuning and choice along with correct arrow weight are essential to get the job done, along with the usual correct shot placement. imo
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