I know the barrel up/down threads have been done to death, however min 15.06 of tonight's programme sealed the fate of barrel up for me...!!
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...WU2Op9l2lXV3J2xvQ&sig2=YniWMOR8rYEtuDZdy7up6Q
Tim.243
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...WU2Op9l2lXV3J2xvQ&sig2=YniWMOR8rYEtuDZdy7up6Q
Tim.243

or any of the gutter press 