The people's republic of Scotland

[6pointer]

I hope so paul nothing better than a mars with a glass of port (Wh,at)

Here a thought for you... All the industry talent right across the board will bugger off where the market goes leaving behind what's left to crumble turning the new Scotland into a land of benefits and backward sliding disaster.
Nothing new then Paul look what is already here and has happened and why people want a change even with a risk .Because that's better than the life's blood getting tore from its grasp year after year. I don't disagree there will be hard times to come. To you average scot that's nothing new. PS don't be running up across the border to use our SHS. .When the Tory's finish the privatisation. Also you can now get hunting back because England will be tory rule for the foreseeable. Good times for all lol.

 

[wivenhoe65]

I hope so paul nothing better than a mars with a glass of port (Wh,at)

Here a thought for you... All the industry talent right across the board will bugger off where the market goes leaving behind what's left to crumble turning the new Scotland into a land of benefits and backward sliding disaster.
Nothing new then Paul look what is already here and has happened and why people want a change even with a risk .Because that's better than the life's blood getting tore from its grasp year after year. I don't disagree there will be hard times to come. To you average scot that's nothing new. PS don't be running up across the border to use our SHS. .When the Tory's finish the privatisation. Also you can now get hunting back because England will be tory rule for the foreseeable. Good times for all lol.

Try adding 2+2 and see if you can come up with the answer .
Large socialist supporting section of society continually voting whatever party will promise them the biggest handouts = benefit dependency culture
brightest and best leaving to find pastures new where there talents may enable them to prosper = entrepreneurs / innovation
Could there possibly be a connection ............?
And you think independence will bring a bright new dawn ..........
carry on

 

[Paul at Fechan]

I've just taken on a group of 6 YES campainers outside my kids primary school when collecting my little girl from nursery. They were handing out flags to the nursery kids and promising parents a better future this better education that and then I put them right in there place so they left.

They are promising a better future when actually they are promising only uncertainly. I was disgusted at their tactics. Wake the f*** up Scotland

 

[6pointer]

Did you feel like Butcher Cumberland Paul

 

[bogtrotter]

Did you feel like Butcher Cumberland Paul

 

[Mick9abf]

What, England with no oil? Can't let that happen!!

Is the Oil industry the be all and end all. Put simply; as far as I'm aware (and I may be wrong) it's the companies with the drilling rights who technically 'own the oil' extracted, the country simply benefits from the revenue through taxation and licences.

If the government doesn't keep the companies drilling and producing the oil happy they downsize exploration until it becomes more financially beneficial for them to extract the hydrocarbons from an ever more expensive region as happened a few years under labour.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

No, but I do feel like the yes campaigners are specifically aiming for soft targets with lies that if successful will destroy the stability and security of our country and remove any guarantees that our children with have equal chances to their peers in what will be the remainder of the UK.

 

[Wills]

So this oil thing. Who owns what, who has extraction rights, how are they enforced, where does the revenue come from.. E.g is it based on taxation? If so, is it at point of extraction or when it gets to land?

Any feedback?

Also, my industry is pharmaceuticals. Basically, to have a drug in a country you need a licence. Like you do for a gun. If an independent country, no medicines without a licence from hospitals to pain killers bought at the shop.



cheers

 

[private fraser]

I've just taken on a group of 6 YES campainers outside my kids primary school when collecting my little girl from nursery. They were handing out flags to the nursery kids and promising parents a better future this better education that and then I put them right in there place so they left.

They are promising a better future when actually they are promising only uncertainly. I was disgusted at their tactics. Wake the f*** up Scotland

Somebody mentioned scraping the barrel a while ago, I reckon that's a step lower.
Well done Paul.


I've noticed certain things about Yes folk.
Now this is just a generalisation and just my experience, but here's a few tick boxes...

Tend to mention the past a lot, may even be living in it.
Never lived in England.
Haven't traveled a lot...possibly just involved in oil industry travelling.
Unable to engage properly in debate.
Unable or unwilling, it's not very clear which, to absorb facts if they do not suit.
Have an unreasoning, deep and unpleasant dislike or even hatred of English people.
Don't see the above as racism and unacceptable.
Don't feel very happy if you point out the above.
Take the huff easily.

I'll have to stop there, it's lunchtime

 

[private fraser]

Is the Oil industry the be all and end all. Put simply; as far as I'm aware (and I may be wrong) it's the companies with the drilling rights who technically 'own the oil' extracted, the country simply benefits from the revenue through taxation and licences.

If the government doesn't keep the companies drilling and producing the oil happy they downsize exploration until it becomes more financially beneficial for them to extract the hydrocarbons from an ever more expensive region as happened a few years under labour.

Spot on.
See above post about seismic survey

 

[wivenhoe65]

No, but I do feel like the yes campaigners are specifically aiming for soft targets with lies that if successful will destroy the stability and security of our country and remove any guarantees that our children with have equal chances to their peers in what will be the remainder of the UK.

Perhaps the 'yes' acolytes realised that trying to convince anyone but a 4 yr old that independence was a good idea was a bit too difficult for them ?
Lets face it , 4 yr olds don't ask questions - let alone awkward ones

 

[bogtrotter]

No, but I do feel like the yes campaigners are specifically aiming for soft targets with lies that if successful will destroy the stability and security of our country and remove any guarantees that our children with have equal chances to their peers in what will be the remainder of the UK.

While I don't necessarily agree with with your statement , its very wrong that they were out side a primary school any school for that matter, their campaigning should be to adults only.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

the best comments:

Aparently the new scotland would be a democracy!!!!!

We only have 8% of seats in parliment ... err dumb ass we only have like 8% of the population

We will be better off..... how?? 2.3 billion just got wiped off the value of Scottish business. What happens when those businesses leave or go bust!

All they spouted was lies and trash, obviously the danger being people believe it.

 

[Mick9abf]

So this oil thing. Who owns what, who has extraction rights, how are they enforced, where does the revenue come from.. E.g is it based on taxation? If so, is it at point of extraction or when it gets to land?

Any feedback?


cheers

To the best of my knowledge the rigs have, for want of a better description, meters on them which provide the amount of hydrocarbons extracted which is the first step in the taxation process. I'm positive someone with a good knowledge of the industry could give you a better answer though.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

This whole oil thing is a bit stupid really, of the vast reserves of oil still in the North sea, the possible returns to the Scottish Government are speculative at best because the value of oil is not fixed and a high percetage of the oil is not accessible at an extraction cost that is viable to the oil companies.

The actual production is dropping and the cost to extract from more challenging sites in not commercially inviting in the North Sea at this time.....

Saying we will be minted off the back of what's left is just crazy.

 

[ELMER FUDD]

BP has just announced it is supporting the NO vote

BP Statement Regarding Scotland


Release date: 10 September 2014Following statements made today by Sir Ian Wood regarding the North Sea, Bob Dudley, BP Group Chief executive said today:
“BP has been in the UK North Sea for 50 years and we hope to operate here for many years to come. However, the province is now mature and I believe Sir Ian Wood correctly assesses its future potential.
“The opportunities today are smaller and more challenging to develop than in the past. We also face the challenges of extending the productive life of existing assets and managing the future costs of decommissioning. Much of this activity requires fiscal support to be economic, and future long-term investments require fiscal stability and certainty.
“Our business invests for decades into the future. It is important our plans are based on a realistic view of the North Sea’s future potential and the challenges the industry faces in continuing to operate here.
“As a major investor in Scotland – now and into the future – BP believes that the future prospects for the North Sea are best served by maintaining the existing capacity and integrity of the United Kingdom.”
Further enquiries:

BP Press Office, London +44 (0)207 496 4076, bppress@bp.com

 

[bogtrotter]

Somebody mentioned scraping the barrel a while ago, I reckon that's a step lower.
Well done Paul.


I've noticed certain things about Yes folk.
Now this is just a generalisation and just my experience, but here's a few tick boxes...

Tend to mention the past a lot, may even be living in it.
Never lived in England.
Haven't traveled a lot...possibly just involved in oil industry travelling.
Unable to engage properly in debate.
Unable or unwilling, it's not very clear which, to absorb facts if they do not suit.
Have an unreasoning, deep and unpleasant dislike or even hatred of English people.
Don't see the above as racism and unacceptable.
Don't feel very happy if you point out the above.
Take the huff easily.

I'll have to stop there, it's lunchtime

Tend to mention the past a lot, maybe because the past has a big part in shaping who we are today

Never lived in England , no not for any more than a week at a time , work related but don;t see the relevance

'Haven't traveled a great deal, abroad ? not much

Unable to engage properly in a debate, would not have though so

Unable or unwilling, its not very clear which to absorb facts if they do not suit, but is that your facts,my facts or Jock Thamsons facts , the trouble with these facts you speak of is where did they come from , for all these so called facts that you have produced, its possible to produce facts that contradict them, so all we can do is interpret them best we can

Have an unreasoning, deep and unpleasant dislike or even dislike of English people, think that is actually quite rare these days , and certainly not so in my case have quite a few English friends, even some distant relations and my son lived in Milton Keynes for over twenty years prior to his death earlier this year.

Don't see the above as racist and unacceptable, In my opinion racism is never acceptable regardless of who its aimed at

Don't feel happy when you point out the above, no because its wrong on so many levels

Take the huff easily , no not at all , but see no reason for questioning a persons intelligence , because they have a different values and hence opinion from you.

 

[rick6point5]

There are some very relevant facts and figures being bandied about, some utter bollox as well, however it is all pretty 1 directional and relating to how Scotland will loose out, I am not disputing there will be huge changes should it all go through, but I see very little in the posts concerning the huge issues that will become apparent within the Remainder of the UK, do not be fooled into thinking that it will not create havoc within our business & banking sectors, our power companies and the aftershock effects through the whole economy.

Removing a Siamese twin is never an easy operation, sometimes it can be fatal to those that remain..

 

[bewsher500]

that is Gold!!

 

[User00035]

Most need hand outs as you call them Wiven because the English stole there jobs a political move that kept the Tory's in power. With a total disregard for the none tory voters north of the border.
Some successful parasites can disable there host over a long period. Don't be frightened of change as the Tory's have said we need to work together to get a good solution.

"The English stole.........."
Ah yes. Of course we did..