The people's republic of Scotland
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gerarddwatts
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I suspect the indies will look back and realise the day they lost was the day they let loonie Sillars out of his cage and show the true mettle of their cause..
bewsher500
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I wrote an open letter to salmond copying in 6 major newspapers today.
stuck it online too
would love to think it will make copy tomorrow
asks nothing of future but demands an explanation for past and a justification on what rights he has to ask for more power when he has failed to deliver on so many aspects of devolved government that he already has.
stuck it online too
would love to think it will make copy tomorrow
asks nothing of future but demands an explanation for past and a justification on what rights he has to ask for more power when he has failed to deliver on so many aspects of devolved government that he already has.
Most of the YES voters will just be happy if they think they are putting one over the "Auld Enemy".In 10-15 years they will be saying "pass me another buckfast and i'll tell yes aboot the time we beat the English and got oor independence and the weens will be sat there with no shoes but never mind "we beat the English
NOTSHARP
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I passed a wee rally for the Yes campaign the other day.
There were Saltires getting waved and leaflets getting handed out. Quite a carnival atmosphere by the looks.
It was on Maryhill Road in Glasgow, just by the job centre.
There were Saltires getting waved and leaflets getting handed out. Quite a carnival atmosphere by the looks.
It was on Maryhill Road in Glasgow, just by the job centre.
Wapinschaw
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"companies like Asda & John Lewis saying prices will rise...." And the YES camp response to this is what? It is simple business economics in action. Scotland becomes a foreign country with respect to the rest of the UK. Differences in legislation, taxes, time and cost involved in hauling cucumbers to Inverness make this obvious.
"The bankers can go south and the canny Scots will boycott them. Big loss to them." Big loss to the Scots that is. What you need to realise is that where the "brass plate" is, is where the corporate tax is paid. We all know that big companies have clever accountants and lawyers who reduce their tax bills to the minimum by any LEGAL means, but the fact is any tax paid will not go to the Scottish exchequer.
"The YES vandals are slashing and defacing flags and banners around here and doing the cause no good." Good stuff. Show the narrow minded Nationalist bigotry for what it is.
What continues to surprise and sadden me is that major commercial banks from Japan, Germany and the UK, captains of industry of the stature of Shell, BP, B & Q /Screwfix, most supermarkets you have ever heard of, Richard Branson of Virgin, military leaders such as former Sea Lords, Deputy CO Allied Forces Europe to name but a few are all pointing out that independence, i.e. Scotland leaving the UK and therefore becoming a foreign country to the remaining UK will be an economic cluster**** of massive proportions, yet to Alex and co they are all just scaremongering in a campaign whipped up by David Cameron and likely to be nationalised for their pains.
How can Alex and co always be right and the rest of the world wrong?
I will have to live here after next Thursday. I don't want to live in a half baked Socialist Utopia that will run out of money before the first independent Christmas.
Wapinschaw
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I hope that he and his crew will disappear into the dustbin of history. However, it is entirely possible that they will, like Quebec, have another go in a few years time. They are politicians, and riding the tax payer funded gravy train no doubt beats the hell out of working for a living.
It's too late Alex, Red Jim has already nailed your colours to the mast....
Scottish independence: Day of 'celebration' not 'reckoning' says Salmond - BBC News
I saw Sillars on a live BBC TV interview this afternoon.
He is a very bitter angry man looking to take it out on somebody.
And he named a few of those somebody's in his newspaper article,telling them they would have to "bend the knee".
Oil companies deal with countries like Nigeria Venezuela and god knows where else.
They have weathered the threats of people far tougher and just as loopy as Jim Sillars.
Wee eck,Red Jim and mad Kenny Mc.
More of a nightmare team than a dream team.
Yeah...hand Scotland over to them, great idea
Scottish independence: Day of 'celebration' not 'reckoning' says Salmond - BBC News
I saw Sillars on a live BBC TV interview this afternoon.
He is a very bitter angry man looking to take it out on somebody.
And he named a few of those somebody's in his newspaper article,telling them they would have to "bend the knee".
Oil companies deal with countries like Nigeria Venezuela and god knows where else.
They have weathered the threats of people far tougher and just as loopy as Jim Sillars.
Wee eck,Red Jim and mad Kenny Mc.
More of a nightmare team than a dream team.
Yeah...hand Scotland over to them, great idea
No it will not end there if its a no vote, they will go away and lick there wounds for a while but they will be back, the movement really got going in the 1920s and grew in fits and starts, there was a major set back in the 1970s when they failed to gain enough votes to hold a referendum, nothing much from them for a few years but came back stronger than ever to bring us to this point.
Do not make the mistake of thinking its only the SNP supporters that will vote yes , many labour voters have defected to the yes campaign, and even a few Conservatives, then you have the Green
Party, the Scottish socialist democratic party and so on all campaigning for a yes vote.
So no it won't go away, best you can hope for is a few years reprieve if its a no vote.
In all seriousness does anybody believe if it all went seriously udders up for an independent Scotland a Lowland Parliament would allow total meltdown??
I'm convinced most who'll vote yes believe this nowt but a wee experiment that may be terminated should the going become too uncomfortable and they could be forgiven for such when you consider the actions taken to arrest the near collapse of the UK economy when out financial houses caught a case of the vapours.
There is no way the Scots will be permitted to return this island to the dark ages in terms of its economic status. To consider otherwise is to imagine Varget will be coming down your chimney this Christmas!
K
I'm convinced most who'll vote yes believe this nowt but a wee experiment that may be terminated should the going become too uncomfortable and they could be forgiven for such when you consider the actions taken to arrest the near collapse of the UK economy when out financial houses caught a case of the vapours.
There is no way the Scots will be permitted to return this island to the dark ages in terms of its economic status. To consider otherwise is to imagine Varget will be coming down your chimney this Christmas!
K
Come home to a real fire, buy a holiday home in Scotland
a cottage was torched next to my climbing hut in the pub that night the locals were not very happy saying no one from the village would want to live up there and that it made them sick to think that it had been done in their name
on the way back up the hill we wrote on a slate come home to a real fire the next day the owner was crying his eyes out I HAVE NEVER FELT SO ASHAMED
I don't believe that's how most Scots feel, most at least all those I have spoken to realise that if they take the plunge there is no going back and they have to face the consequences, quite a few who are inclined to vote yes are just to scared of the uncertainty, unfortunately there are also quite a few who won't vote at all they are not sure about voting yes, but can't bring themselves to vote no.
Indeed we can all do and say things in jest, that we would take back if only we could, regardless of our differences I hope it never gets like that up here, around me most of the no banners have been vandalised sickens me regardless of our political beliefs we should have respect for the beliefs of others.
Druid
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I grew up in Wales in the 70s and 80s when there were indeed fires set on holidays homes of people who just happened to be english.Come home to a real fire, buy a holiday home in Scotland
Its not a myth, I saw the wreckage and the bigoted slogans.
These 'keepers of Wales' or ' sons of glyndwr' or whatever name they chose to aggrandise themselves with, were largely complete ****s who needed a flag to wave.
I have disliked all these vocals nationalists ever since, that way eventually lies hatred, distrust even genocide. (Former Yugoslavia anyone?)
I am very dissapointed in the Scottish campaign and the disgusting lazy stereotypes that have been peddled (cos all of us who live in the southern part of England are all rich bankers!!?!, really!)
On the positive, I'm still in the market for a nice 308, let me know what you got when Mr Salmond won't let you keep yours.
Fisher man
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Dont panic mr man nearing. All will be ok!!!
It will probably come back to haunt us as we have Allowed our history to haunt us.
The clue is in our "national anthem" (not official)....
O flower of Scotland
When will we see your like again
That fought and died for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again
The hills are bare now
And autumn leaves lie thick and still
O'er land that is lost now
Which those so dearly held
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again
Those days are passed now
And in the past they must remain
But we can still rise now
And be the nation again
That stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again
The first line of the last verse states... "those days are passed now and in the past they must remain".
Then it all starts up again
I always preferred Dougie MacLean's "Caledonia".
Flower of Scotland is such a dirge.
Back on track...
What say you on what our dear departed SL6.5
said in his post above.It was post #3 in the thread.
Reckon this will happen if it's Yes ?.
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