Are trees covered under AOLQ?
If you knew the tree you would understand. He is a mean mother... lol
357/38 special underlever
- Thread starter Psyxologos
- Start date
If you knew the tree you would understand. He is a mean mother... lol
scrumbag
Well-Known Member
A right little matriarch seducer eh? Better break out a thumper!
That looks really good!
Yes, they look good, and they work.
With the large aperture, it is about 3-4 inches from your eye, and works as a ghost ring sight.
You can change to a large disk with a small aperture for a really sharp front sight and target image.
On something like a .30-30, set the open sight for 100 yards and then swing up the tang sight for 150.
With the large aperture, it is about 3-4 inches from your eye, and works as a ghost ring sight.
You can change to a large disk with a small aperture for a really sharp front sight and target image.
On something like a .30-30, set the open sight for 100 yards and then swing up the tang sight for 150.
scrumbag
Well-Known Member
Southern, do you have any experience of the combine picantinny rail - ghost ring sight options you see from people like XS?
Mike
xavierdoc
Well-Known Member
I've used Williams version of this, "Ace-in-the-hole", on my Marlin (from Roger at SYSS). Works ok as a close-range/backup sight but due to the size of the bell of my scope, I can't leave the peep set at its zero position. Not all scopes will have this problem.
It's a less precise option than a smaller aperture, dedicated sight but good for a quick acquisition option.
scrumbag
Well-Known Member
Thanks Xavierdoc. Where are you in Wales?
Xavierdoc is right. The ghost ring is quick to pick up, but less precise, for several reasons. One is that the smaller aperture acts like a pinhole camera, to focus your eye on the front sight, like a lense would do.
I prefer to use a receiver sight or tang sight. Weaver makes a rail for the Marlin, and two-piece bases for the Marlin and the Winchester 94AE. Warne makes 2-piece bases for both. I prefer to use the low, unobtrusive Warne bases with a Lyman receiver sight. The Lyman comes with two apertures. When you remove them altogether, you have a ghost ring sight. You can push the button, and remove the entire bridge, letting you use the open sights ( Fold down Lyman windage adjustble) or a scope in QD lever rings ( Warne or Weaver). When you put the Lyman bridge back on, it returns to zero. So does the scope ( or red dot sight ). I will take some photos and post them
I prefer to use a receiver sight or tang sight. Weaver makes a rail for the Marlin, and two-piece bases for the Marlin and the Winchester 94AE. Warne makes 2-piece bases for both. I prefer to use the low, unobtrusive Warne bases with a Lyman receiver sight. The Lyman comes with two apertures. When you remove them altogether, you have a ghost ring sight. You can push the button, and remove the entire bridge, letting you use the open sights ( Fold down Lyman windage adjustble) or a scope in QD lever rings ( Warne or Weaver). When you put the Lyman bridge back on, it returns to zero. So does the scope ( or red dot sight ). I will take some photos and post them
You can buy the adjustable aperture sight disc from Merit Sight Disc. They make them to fit standard threads for new and older sights. They work great. You just reach up and move the lever with your fingernail to suit the light conditions. They sell directly and through Brownells.
I have a Williams receiver sight for a Marlin 336 with 3 apertures (2 the ghost ring type) and 2 end bead sights If you look back on my threads you will see what I paid for them but as I never got along with them someone can have them for £20 plus the postage (I'm in the US so can post them in the US or get a friend to take them back to the UK and post them there)
Regards,
Gixer
Regards,
Gixer
xavierdoc
Well-Known Member
I've sent you a PM.
I walked into a pawn shop in 1994 and there was a lever gun that said "Brazilian .357, $60"
It was a Rossi/Taurus Model 92 Winchester clone with exceptionally nice, dark wood. I took it home and ran about 50 different cast bullet loads through it. Instant love affair.
It is a tack driver and still loitering around my gunroom someplace.~Muir
It was a Rossi/Taurus Model 92 Winchester clone with exceptionally nice, dark wood. I took it home and ran about 50 different cast bullet loads through it. Instant love affair.
It is a tack driver and still loitering around my gunroom someplace.~Muir
Don't you love pawn shops for that? Ha!
The Rossi 92 is a slick little rifle. I know several boys, now men, who started their deer hunting with one, limited to 50 yards shots by their father or grandfather.
You remind me of going into a disheveled pawn shop to ask directions and spying a clean Steyr Mannlicher 1952 in the rack.
"Could I see that old rifle with the wood stock?"
"This here Stoeger?"
"Yeah, that. Hmmm... whatcha want for it?"
"$600 cash."
"$500."
"Sale".
And it had factory QD mounts and a Leupold scope. Shoots everything into tiny groups. I pinch myself every time I shoot it.
Pawn shops are a great place to find lever action guns in the USA.
I do like the pawn shops. Many younger people can't recognize the good stuff from the assault rifles these days so they miss out and as a consequence, a lot of the older stuff sits gathering dust. The same pawn shop that yielded the Rossi gave me an 1899 BSA factory Light Express rifle in 303 Brit. Horn accouterments, English walnut stock. Three leaf express sights and a cartridge cut off. (think Val Kilmer's rifle in "The Ghost and the Darkness." Exactly the same weapon.) It was $79 and tucked in amongst the pile of butchered surplus 303's. One glance at the fittings told me it wasn't a garage gunsmith special. Shoots Winchester 180 grain RN into a bug hole at 50M. At shops in the same city: Model 27 S&W 8.375" for $199, a first year production S&W Model 28 Highway patrolman four inch for $165.... There have been others. A 1953 Marlin Model 336 with a half magazine for $150. All these in the last nine years.
In each instance, after explaining I would not haggle and that I carried cash, I asked for a price that I couldn't walk away from. If the number wasn't what i thought it should be I thanked them and walked. In most instances though, I was given a price that surprised me; like the ones mentioned above.
Yeah. I think I would have jumped that Stoeger, too.~Muir
Two friends of mine are Marlin collectors. They went hunting somewhere in Quebec, and went into a hardware / gun store, where the younger hunters were all trading stuff for the new plastic stocked bolt actions. They said there were Marlins and Winchester lever actions all over the place. They bought about five and brought had them shipped back home. These all vintage rifles in .38-55, .38-40, etc. They said they were going back, but don't know if they did. They both got a moose and bear, and all this, so it was a trip to remember.
Funny how regional likes/dislikes work. I was in a gunshop in Massachusetts about 20 years ago and the guy had maybe 50 rare Lyman/Ideal bullet molds for $5 each. Why? No interest in bullet casting around there. I bought most of them. I spotted a Winchester M52B (Transitional model) and it was $150. Again, no interest. The 5" S&W Military and Police in the case for $125 made the trip home with the Model 52 Win because nobody cared about S&W revolvers. All they wanted were autoloaders. Sold the M52 for 3X what I paid when I got it home.~Muir
(Still have the molds, gave the S&W to my then, 8 year old son as his first CF revolver) (He still has it)
All up in New England, there are lots of great shops, filled with revolvers and lever action rifles, many of them in great shape, from the 1920s, 30s, 40s and 50s. The LL Bean store is full of stuff, and Kittery, but also lots of little ones in small towns. I found a 1937 Savage 99 in .300 Savage, new in the box, at a gun show in an armory, no larger than a 3-car garage, and a Winchester 1873 in .44-40. My brother bought a K-22 Masterpiece in an old store like that recently, for $200.
The biggest factor, I think, is the generational turnover, with grandad's guns unappreciated. And to the non-collector, a valuable old lever action looks like a new one, but worth less. The grey pre-64 Winchester 94 I bought for $125 was sitting between two new ones for 4X as much. But now, new lever action prices have gone through the roof. Winchesters are crazy.
I just try to keep hooking people on these lever actions. None of them who ever bought their first one ever regretted it.
The biggest factor, I think, is the generational turnover, with grandad's guns unappreciated. And to the non-collector, a valuable old lever action looks like a new one, but worth less. The grey pre-64 Winchester 94 I bought for $125 was sitting between two new ones for 4X as much. But now, new lever action prices have gone through the roof. Winchesters are crazy.
I just try to keep hooking people on these lever actions. None of them who ever bought their first one ever regretted it.
I went to my RFD for a scoping visit today, hoping to have a look and maybe handle a couple of different rifles so I get a feeling for them. Unfortunately there were none in stock and I was also told that I will need to order the gun before I can actually handle it, which is no ideal. 
This is because there are not that common/popular, so if my RFD got a couple of rifles for me to handle they would have a hard time shifting the one I did not like. So I guess, as I want to buy from them, I will need to travel a bit and get a feel for a few guns before I place an order. 
Or go for what I know and get a second hand Marlin (older ones).
This is because there are not that common/popular, so if my RFD got a couple of rifles for me to handle they would have a hard time shifting the one I did not like. So I guess, as I want to buy from them, I will need to travel a bit and get a feel for a few guns before I place an order. Or go for what I know and get a second hand Marlin (older ones).Similar threads
