tackb
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there absolutely is not !!!!
Help Save Canterbury's Heritage Streetlights
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there absolutely is not !!!!
tackb
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i believe the issue relates to corrosion under the ground ?
but in all honestly i didn't really listen that closely
i think i was hungry at the time.....
Not sure on the specifics of these lights but there are certainly still quality foundries that can produce cast iron components. Also with correct maintenance cast iron will outlast galvanised steel products by multiple decades easily. The problem with most councils and public bodies in general is their maintenance of the public realm is non existent, they wait for problems to occur then fire fight with minor repairs until they can justify larger capital works ie ‘modernisation’.
I’m a blacksmith and see this all the time, live in a historic area and see contractors with no skill set or knowledge of historic built environment taking on works as the lowest bid on the tender. It’s a race to the bottom unfortunately.
I’m a blacksmith and see this all the time, live in a historic area and see contractors with no skill set or knowledge of historic built environment taking on works as the lowest bid on the tender. It’s a race to the bottom unfortunately.
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Freeforester
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Duly signed 
Reform Council? Who have voted to do this? So like they said after the "Leave" vote it's a democratic decision. Get over it. But of course the folk that want these kept then will be the same folk moaning that Council Tax has gone up? Cost figures I have seen on the internet says new lamps cost £167. Replacement cast iron cost £3000. As other will confirm it is notoriously difficult to weld repair large cracked areas of cast iron. It can be done but not easily.
Those are obviously ludicrous made-up figures. Do you seriously think you can buy a lamppost and streetlight for £167?? Equally absurd is the idea that fixing cast iron lamps need cost that much. What has happened here is some philistine idiot in the council has had a "clever" idea and manufactured excuses and numbers to justify it.
Three metre galvanised of like type as proposed by the Reform council:
3 Metre Galvanized Lighting Column Lamp Post
Durable 3m galvanized lighting column lamp post with root or flange mount. Ideal for floodlights, street lighting, or CCTV. Fast UK delivery.
wydels.co.uk
Cast iron of the similar pattern to the Canterbury lamps the petition demands:
"The Grange" Antique Silver Cast Iron Ornate Lamp Post 3.1m
Hand-finished in an antique silver, this fascinating lamp post and lantern set takes inspiration from a combination of traditional Victorian design and classic Gothic detailing. Expertly crafted from robust cast iron, this set has been specifically designed to stand the test of time and will...
www.blackcountrymetalworks.co.uk
Tf223
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The issue is blown out of proportion. Cast iron columns that are corroded or cracked are being replaced with steel heritage columns, the same luminaire is being fitted and they are keeping roughly the same heritage aesthetic.
Kcc have confirmed that they’ve been replacing these for some time as they’ve been condemned without anyone passing comment, and it’s only blown up as one street needs seven done as no longer safe.
Isn't it sensible to use a cheaper steel heritage column that effectively look the same rather than a debt ridden council waste money casting new cast iron ones at greater expense.
Kcc have confirmed that they’ve been replacing these for some time as they’ve been condemned without anyone passing comment, and it’s only blown up as one street needs seven done as no longer safe.
Isn't it sensible to use a cheaper steel heritage column that effectively look the same rather than a debt ridden council waste money casting new cast iron ones at greater expense.
Reform-led council under fire for plans to rip up Victorian lampposts
Canterbury is one of the few cities which has managed to retain a set of bespoke nineteenth century cast iron street lamps
www.independent.co.uk
Here's the story with the costings for the castings. I'd have assumed that these would be cast in green sand from sectional wooden patterns? I cannot see such patterns being that expensive? But, yes, the casting would be labour cost expensive as it'd be being done in the UK.
No!
Please note paragraph 2 and 3:
Canterbury's Victorian lamp-posts to be removed, campaigners say - BBC News
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Canterbury's Victorian lamp-posts to be removed, campaigners say - BBC News
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shakey jake
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Cast is worth a few quid as scrap, could be on to a winner
Sat Rat
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K,
Totally agree with you being a local to the CT postcode, it is sicking to see what has become of Canterbury it now appears to be a mix of Eastern European food shops, or vape/mobile repair centres!( don't get me started on the Deliveroo/drug mules zipping about!).
shakey jake
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Its sickening that the only shops that thrive in any town are takeaways, barbors, salons and estate agents.
I would bet money more local care about these than lamp posts
You could probably buy a shitty plastic facsimile of it for £167
shakey jake
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The people voted for the council they got
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