Triggermortis
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'It was heartbreaking to shoot dog attacking sheep'
A Derbyshire gamekeeper speaks out on the day new laws are introduced on livestock worrying.
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Dogs worrying sheep in the news again.
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Its a terrible thing for the farmer and not pleasant for the person that ends up having to shoot the Dog or Dogs .
Smellydog
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Failings of the dog owner.
If you think your dog will ever go near livestock introduce it to livestock and chastise any presumptuous interest immediately.
My dogs only ever think livestock is for their entertainment once! A couple resulted in near death experience for the them but they were fixed.
If you think your dog will ever go near livestock introduce it to livestock and chastise any presumptuous interest immediately.
My dogs only ever think livestock is for their entertainment once! A couple resulted in near death experience for the them but they were fixed.
Sol
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Stepped out the house too go stalking recently and seen our friend with police, quads, shotgun on the shoulder etc down at field connected into the village, Dog had gotten out and had damaged several ewes and killed several lambs.
Dog was lucky Its owner showed up right before getting shot, Its not the first time Its worried sheep but Its without the doubt the most severe case.
And the unfortunate thing is? Its a pup under two, Its just being completely failed by the owner, like come on? you live In a farming village with sheep on your doorstep why the **** isn't your dog trained around sheep?
People are idiots.
Living with my parents untrained dogs, has made me incredibly opinionated regarding training for canines 97% of people shouldn't own a dog, seriously.
Dog was lucky Its owner showed up right before getting shot, Its not the first time Its worried sheep but Its without the doubt the most severe case.
And the unfortunate thing is? Its a pup under two, Its just being completely failed by the owner, like come on? you live In a farming village with sheep on your doorstep why the **** isn't your dog trained around sheep?
People are idiots.Living with my parents untrained dogs, has made me incredibly opinionated regarding training for canines 97% of people shouldn't own a dog, seriously.
My flock earlier today: 
Again, this was just for exposure for them and practicing sitting still whilst we were painting the greenhouse etc. When people come up in pubs and ask how much time it took to train my dogs I always reply that they are not trained yet. No dog is ever finished. Training, or conditioning, begins from birth and continues to death. It is rare to see a well behaved dog in the UK or abroad.
The number of working dogs on grouse moors that I have seen chase hill sheep is uncountable.
Again, this was just for exposure for them and practicing sitting still whilst we were painting the greenhouse etc. When people come up in pubs and ask how much time it took to train my dogs I always reply that they are not trained yet. No dog is ever finished. Training, or conditioning, begins from birth and continues to death. It is rare to see a well behaved dog in the UK or abroad.
The number of working dogs on grouse moors that I have seen chase hill sheep is uncountable.
Its just being completely failed by the owner, like come on? you live In a farming village with sheep on your doorstep why the **** isn't your dog trained around sheep?
Living with my parents untrained dogs, has made me incredibly opinionated regarding training for canines 97% of people shouldn't own a dog, seriously.
Completely agree
Heym SR20
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The only challenge of training a dog around sheep if you are a non farmer / stalker / working on the land is actually getting access to sheep and livestock.
I am lucky enough to have friends who farm sheep. And i stalk regularly with sheep on the ground. My hound is not even interested in them. Indeed she is a bit scared of them as she has been butted by them.
But many many who have dogs have absolutely no ability to introduce them to livestock etc. and to get them used to being around such animals.
Our 1st lab as a pup was always taken up to the livery yard with the wifey, he used to grumble when the horse used to lean over the stable door to sniff him with age our lab would stand up on his back legs and peer over to the horse. Now after years he just ignores them and gives them a wide berth, Cattle, and sheep he does the same, no interest at all, the farm cat he stays away from after getting a wack, squirrels used to be a challenge he ignores them now after he realised he cant climb trees., Rabbits he knows he can catch them with ease 
but chooses to let them waste their energy.
Pheasants, Partridge, Woodcock and Pigeon were fair game and he'd gladly retrieve any he was sent on.
Ive seen 1st hand dogs attacking sheep, a German Shepard killed a Ewe and caused a fair bit of damage to 3 others, the owner was fined and no other action taken.
but chooses to let them waste their energy.Pheasants, Partridge, Woodcock and Pigeon were fair game and he'd gladly retrieve any he was sent on.
Ive seen 1st hand dogs attacking sheep, a German Shepard killed a Ewe and caused a fair bit of damage to 3 others, the owner was fined and no other action taken.
Damage is not limited to if a dog draws blood. Being chased but also the sight of a wild dog can cause issues near lambing. I've seen heavily pregnant ewes struggling to get up and breaking into a run when they see a dog. Plus stress has a major affect on getting pregnant in the autumn.
Dunwaters
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Spot on, little mountains sheep seem to have an attractive scent. Even dogs that are well used to lowland sheep will show interest.
Yes it seems to be scent and flightiness. Also, a dog may be steady to the first 15 bumps into sheep on the day. Their blood gets up and up, and then boom. Legs after the next one. My mentor Eddie Kania was great on the moors. He used to bollock me if I worked the dog on too quickly after a series of flushes (grouse/mountain hare) or bumps into sheep. “Get that (bleep) dog’s (bleep) on the (bleep) ground and keep it there until he’s looking at you not the (bleep) run.” Or if you were cresting a hill, keeping the dog within eyesight. Up on the open moor isn’t the place to test your stop whistle!
Bo Diddley
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I always put myself out to introduce any pups to livestock. Even though I have nothing myself now, not even any hens, I have asked people in the village if it's ok to introduce my pups to their livestock.
A lady has three sheep, and she had a pony and a few chickens, but it's only the sheep now. I walk down and feed them every morning for her, and do a bit of training on the same meadow with the Cocker pup and her mother.
Another lady has a ferret and a few chickens, it all helps.
A lady has three sheep, and she had a pony and a few chickens, but it's only the sheep now. I walk down and feed them every morning for her, and do a bit of training on the same meadow with the Cocker pup and her mother.
Another lady has a ferret and a few chickens, it all helps.
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