2 Great Lions
- Thread starter Sampie Potgieter
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Not free range although we do offer free range, these were hunted in Limpopo Province of South Africa , we used a .375 H & H
shakey jake
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Hope you have never shot reared pheasants?
May aswell buy from a butcher
Brighty3006
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I simply never ever want to shoot a Lion
Each to their own Sir. Please accomodate this sentiment.
I regret not having the funds to do so when I was young enough to do so.
Nor me on any big cats, but that’s a personal preference - I hope it cost a shed full of money that goes to help the area, but it’s not hunting.
Woodenbeam
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Interesting to see how/what others do
Enough issues here at a local level to worry about, without concerning myself with the international stage.
Enough issues here at a local level to worry about, without concerning myself with the international stage.
The fenced area may well be larger than a Scottish Island, yet no-one questions whether stalking red deer in such a location is hunting or just plain shooting.
Neither do I (although I'd shoot a sick or wounded one, for welfare reasons).
What I really do want to shoot is a kudu. That's my dream hunt. I doubt I'll ever be able to afford it, but I'm glad that outfitters like @Sampie Potgieter can keep going, just in case a slice of luck does come my way one day.
My choice would be a Buff as the meat would go a lot further in the local area, however the OP runs it for his clients which is fine as people shoot park deer in the UK.
The area is fenced and its big area that houses multiple species , these animals weren't hand reared in a small pen and shot in a pen. They were hunted ethically and fairly with miles of walk and stalk after each of them. Each hunter has his own rightful preference or input, but dont judge before you have not experienced one of these hunts. Let alone the south african wildlife model that has a incredible role in conserving and protecting wildlife there is more wildlife in private ownership now than there ever was in any national parks and this is the result of decades on hard work of private games reserves and game raches that has brought us to this point . These hunts attach value to a animal that would otherwise been seen as a threat to domestic animals or even game animals and now has a rightful place but their numbers needs to be managed and controlled and thats where sport hunters come into play , not even mentioning the countless jobs they create in rural areas where people are dependent on the wildlife sector to create livelihoods.
I have been lucky enough to hunt plains game up by the Sand River in the Limpopo district of South Africa. It was a magical and wonderful experience that I will treasure for all time. Yes, the reserve was fenced. However, the property was vast. It stretched to over 35,000 acres. It went on for ever. It was enormous. It never felt "fenced in" in any way. I personally have no interest in shooting anything feline. I do accept that hunting them gives them a value, but its not for me.
I was in Limpopo earlier in the year and the subject of hunting Lion came up around the fire one evening. It certainly isn’t for everyone but it is a very nuanced subject that is neither black nor white. There are good operators who offer fair chase and there are less ethical outfits where the pens are smaller and the chase much less arduous. The same could be said for many things in this country including different facets of deer stalking so I would encourage everyone to keep an open mind. Essentially if captive bred lion hunting were not possible then there would need to be a wholesale slaughter of all captive bred stock that provide important genetic material for future generations of lion. Wild populations are often not the healthiest and I believe TB is rife in areas such as Kruger NP where lions roam free. When it comes to the shooting of the lions bear in mind that the element of danger still remains whether they are fenced or free roaming… you are still within 20-50m of one of the worlds true apex predators intending to do him harm. That alone is bound to get the buck fever bubbling away.
Not for everyone I accept (including me) but there is some positive work that comes from the CBL industry.
Not for everyone I accept (including me) but there is some positive work that comes from the CBL industry.
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nobody asked if you did ............
sako751sg
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Once again,folk clamouring to tell people what they wouldn't shoot.
People sometimes wonder why our jobs,sport and pastimes are threatened when it's plain to see how splintered shooting/fieldsports really is.
Definitely, globally our industry and hunting as a sport is under severe and constant attack from the the anti-hunting fraternity who has infiltrated political organisations who impose hunting bans and strict measures to stop the only proven conservation tool that has sustained South Africa and multiple other countries. We as like minded sportsman and enthusiast and people who make there living from this should rather join efforts educate people globally about the benefits of sport hunting as a sustainable tool to manage wildlife in a ethical and balanced way to ensure we still have the opportunity to practice this wonderful sport we all pass down from generation to generation and still be able to have our children hunt in manny years to come.
This is very true. I think the other aspect of CBL is the difficulty merging game farming with having lion populations resident. The two are diametrically opposed! If you have a herd of impala in a lion enclosure, I suspect they won’t be there for long!!
100% true the areas I hunt lion has animals like sable , and roan present in the system which is high value animals and predation dos occur very often , CBL are wild as can be and are fantastic hunters the inherent will/desire/need to hunt is in that animal from day one.
