Neddle
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Posted that by mistake
204 dying off ?
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I have a super accurate match .223 which is v heavy. My .204 is just clinical and surgical accurate and I cannot do it justice. If it was deer legal in England then it would be a dream come true. Just remember the 22 Hornet was considered to be the perfect woodland roe calibre pre deer act changes. Richard Prior praised it's virtues.
Long live 20 calibre.
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Long live 20 calibre.
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Neddle
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Those that over look the 20 calibre don't realise what they are missing
UpNorthMI
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That was some impressive shooting, the .204 certainly is a fast moving round. The key reason I suggested a .223 was the ammo cost and the fact that it could be used for smaller deer in the UK. If those are not important factors for you, the .204 Ruger is an excellent round for fox.
Is the .204 Ruger dying off, ammo remains readily available in the US with at least a choice of 12 different rounds at most online sellers, new rifles are offered in a reasonable volume by Ruger, Savage, Remington, CZ, Howa, Kimber, CVA & Others. The price points in the US market are pretty much all below $1,000 with many rifles in stores around $600. There are many newer calibers growing in the market place, such as .22 Creedmoor, .22 ARC but the .204 Ruger is the only .20 caliber sold as a volume rifle. My prediction is that it will stay firmly available in the US, I'm sure in the UK you don't see the volume of rifles and there is not such a difference in ammo costs between the .204 Ruger and say .223, in the UK as all ammo is unreasonably expensive! In the US we pay a fractional ammo cost compared to the UK, the differential between .223, and calibers such as .204 Ruger, .22 ARC & .22 Creedmoor is very large as .223 is sold in such a massive volume. I just purchased PMC .223 ammo for $8.50 for 20 rounds yesterday, that's £6.30 for 20 rounds.
Maybe the .204 Ruger will appear to be dying off in the UK as it is more of a niche caliber and the actual number of rifles sold must be fairly low overall.
I'm sure that no fox is going to complain about being hit with a .204 Ruger.
Is the .204 Ruger dying off, ammo remains readily available in the US with at least a choice of 12 different rounds at most online sellers, new rifles are offered in a reasonable volume by Ruger, Savage, Remington, CZ, Howa, Kimber, CVA & Others. The price points in the US market are pretty much all below $1,000 with many rifles in stores around $600. There are many newer calibers growing in the market place, such as .22 Creedmoor, .22 ARC but the .204 Ruger is the only .20 caliber sold as a volume rifle. My prediction is that it will stay firmly available in the US, I'm sure in the UK you don't see the volume of rifles and there is not such a difference in ammo costs between the .204 Ruger and say .223, in the UK as all ammo is unreasonably expensive! In the US we pay a fractional ammo cost compared to the UK, the differential between .223, and calibers such as .204 Ruger, .22 ARC & .22 Creedmoor is very large as .223 is sold in such a massive volume. I just purchased PMC .223 ammo for $8.50 for 20 rounds yesterday, that's £6.30 for 20 rounds.
Maybe the .204 Ruger will appear to be dying off in the UK as it is more of a niche caliber and the actual number of rifles sold must be fairly low overall.
I'm sure that no fox is going to complain about being hit with a .204 Ruger.
Neddle
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Heres the group size for the sceptics amongst us.
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andy R204
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The 204 v 223 discussion will always be splitting hairs IMO.
Granted the .223 has more scope of bullet weights depending on twist but their both great calibres to use.
I would be tempted to get an 1 in 8 twist .223 or .22 Br if I ever moved away from the.204 but I cant see that for the foreseeable as I've been a .204 user since 2010
Granted the .223 has more scope of bullet weights depending on twist but their both great calibres to use.
I would be tempted to get an 1 in 8 twist .223 or .22 Br if I ever moved away from the.204 but I cant see that for the foreseeable as I've been a .204 user since 2010
Neddle
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I had a 1:8 twiat rate 223 24" barrel, a souless beast, never liked it hence the 204 that I cant see me parting with. Theres satisfaction to be outahooting the big boys with whats deemed to be a lesswr calibre.
the prowler
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204ruger and 20vartarg. Both excellent rounds for Charlie.
6pt-sika
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I e owned two Rugers in 204 , bought both used . The first was a 77VT with the grey stainless and laminated bench style stock HB of course . That thing literally would drive tacks 1/4 MOA for five shots got boring . Going for 1/10 MOA was far more intresting . The one big drawback was handloading , the projectiles are quite small for large fingers . The second 204 I had was in a #1B it shot fine for groundhogs and that type of thing but had no where near the accuracy of the 77VT but still big fingers with small projectiles when reloading was a hinderance .
Highlander94
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Nice rifles mate, varmint barrels ?
the prowler
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204 is a hunter barrel
20vartarg is a varmint barrel
Neddle
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39gr Bk, 3600fps N133 Remington brass
cci 400 primersHave both Tikka t3 SV in 204 and a Remmy 700 in 223......remmy is 1 in 8 and shoots 55-75gn absolutely sweet as, but i have put the time into the loads. the 204 dont mind 32`s but prefers 39`s, never did try 40`s.
Both these rifles shoot well under moa at 100yds and beyond, now would i or do i prefer one over the other.??? Lets put it this way if the mrs was stood with one in each hand and asked my which one im choosing to leave the house forever, im afraid her bags would be packed and both rifles would be staying in the box....i can do without her. 204 wears digital day/night vision and 223 a sightron. great kit.
Both these rifles shoot well under moa at 100yds and beyond, now would i or do i prefer one over the other.??? Lets put it this way if the mrs was stood with one in each hand and asked my which one im choosing to leave the house forever, im afraid her bags would be packed and both rifles would be staying in the box....i can do without her. 204 wears digital day/night vision and 223 a sightron. great kit.
Highlander94
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Do you reload for the 204 mate ? If you do how easy a round is it to reload
Griggo06
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I likey vartarg. Making brass to fit is time consuming though.
What recipe(powder, bullet choice) do you use for yours?
Griggo06
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Another question for you pal, how do you find the vt for feeding? I'm in a tikka action and have tried to make it feed with different spring rates etc and backing plates in the magazine but can't get it reliable. Have you had any luck?
the prowler
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Hi mate, it feeds spot on. I only ever load 3 rounds in the magazine. That goes for all of my sako rifles. It's a dream to shoot and not Abit if recoil. 18grain of n130 powder 39sbk
Griggo06
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So my tikka should feed okay then..how strange can I DM you my number
I do like it, mine was a second hand purchase but made by Steve Kershaw but just never fed super well. And I struggle to get super consistent ammo it's definitely a me problem and I need to figure it out...
I do like it, mine was a second hand purchase but made by Steve Kershaw but just never fed super well. And I struggle to get super consistent ammo it's definitely a me problem and I need to figure it out...
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