.22 hornet

My reloading room is wallpapered with tiny Hornet groups. I don't even shoot groups with it any more. If I'm taking it out for serious work after a lay off, I fire one shot at a spot on a piece of paper. If it hits, and it usually dies, I'm done. It has been that consistent. ~Muir
 
Back when I first started shooting, 2007ish, I swapped my HMR for a .22 Hornet. Performance on foxes was much improved and for a couple of years it was my favourite rifle bar none. I used it so much I shot the barrel out!

The K version is just a modified case shape. Sharper shoulder to help with case life, not that I had a great deal of bother with that with the standard one. I'd just go for the standard one in a CZ527. A lot of Hornets have a reputation for not shooting too accurately, but the CZ's are well recognised amongst fans of the cartridge as being one of the best rifles you can buy. I had mine shortened to 18", it was a brilliant walk around vermin rifle and I took everything from rats to roe deer (humane dispatch) with it.
 
Back when I first started shooting, 2007ish, I swapped my HMR for a .22 Hornet. Performance on foxes was much improved and for a couple of years it was my favourite rifle bar none. I used it so much I shot the barrel out!

The K version is just a modified case shape. Sharper shoulder to help with case life, not that I had a great deal of bother with that with the standard one. I'd just go for the standard one in a CZ527. A lot of Hornets have a reputation for not shooting too accurately, but the CZ's are well recognised amongst fans of the cartridge as being one of the best rifles you can buy. I had mine shortened to 18", it was a brilliant walk around vermin rifle and I took everything from rats to roe deer (humane dispatch) with it.
dunno how you shot the barrel out ?! in that timeline , rust out pretty easy though shot out must take over 10k minimum ? I have had mine about 13-14 years and i am certainly getting on to 700 rounds average PA and the bore is still fine and it can run 0.25 moa on a good day with everything other than varmint granades doing similar ( they slap a target sideways even at 50 yards only ) even tough to get them on paper
 
dunno how you shot the barrel out ?! in that timeline , rust out pretty easy though shot out must take over 10k minimum ? I have had mine about 13-14 years and i am certainly getting on to 700 rounds average PA and the bore is still fine and it can run 0.25 moa on a good day with everything other than varmint granades doing similar ( they slap a target sideways even at 50 yards only ) even tough to get them on paper
I could vouch for 7000, but as I home load that was a minimum figure. Could have been more. It didn't have time to rust.
 
I have a L46 Sako in 22 Hornet. Made in the 1940's. The smallest centre fire calibre and for me one of the best. Mine is un-moderatered and I would never put on a moderator. The sound is Ok and to be honest I only use it for Foxes although bunnies do feature occasionally. Just a great all rounder.The Hornet like most venerable calibers has a few miles under it's belt having been created in the 1930's but they just keep on ticking over.

They are great varmint guns.

rsf
 
What is the rough ratio of fox to rabbit you intend to shoot ?

Have you looked at the 17 hornet? Flatter, with less drop and less affected by wind- it beats the 22 hornet on paper in all areas.

I still think the 22H is a better fox tool, however- if that's your main focus.

My 17H is the same noise level as my HMR.

Do you have a lot of rabbits ? For big numbers- HMR still wins IMO. Unless you have a little 22LR as well.

Hornets are generally considered a bit much for closer range rabbits. If you want to eat them head shots are the only real option- and even then you may well bruise the spine.

For headshot rabbit damage to look like a typical 70 yard HMR shot- you would have to have shot it at around 200 yards....

I'm very tempted to swap hmr for 17H mainly for wary crows. What max distance you'd say you could drop crow?
 
I'm very tempted to swap hmr for 17H mainly for wary crows. What max distance you'd say you could drop crow?

The calibre is capeable of killing one at stupid range. Probably 400 yards or something crazy. It would certainly still be explosive at 350-400 yards (unlike the hmr that stops being explosive at 180-200).

My gun isn't anything like accurate enough for that though- not with factory ammo. Not much ammo choice out there and my CZ shoots Hornady 20g and S&B 20gr at around 1.4" 100 yards. One of the reasons I'm getting into reloading as I know its capeable of far more.

It's also a v small little bullet- even with the heavier 25gr varieties - so even if the gun is capeable - it struggles in higher winds.

Beware- its v destructive on rabbits at closer range. The bullet slows down to HMR muzzle speeds at around 150 yards as a guide.

On the plus side- when it's a bit windy for HMR- and you still want to shoot rabbits- the 17 hornet will do the job well at typical HMR ranges.

I do recall a particularly enjoyable crow sesh- decoy in the middle of the field- I was 180 yards away- there was still a fair wind- and I got several crows and they didn't have a clue where I was. I don't think I will use it as much this winter - not while it's windy anyway.

PS it also makes a mess of birds at closer range so if you want to use one as a decoy- you won't be able to! VOE......
 
I used mine out to around 240 mtrs and it still has accurate legs for more than that, only reason I swapped it for a 22 hornet was having to track a couple foxes down, even though the shot placement was spot on, but accuracy and longer range shooting on rabbits it’s top drawer
 
If I got one it'd purely be a crow killer, only day time set up. I'm on my 2nd HMR. Great calibre imo but it's not what I need. I'm torn between a hornet or start to reload for 204 so can bring £/round down. 🤔
 
If I got one it'd purely be a crow killer, only day time set up. I'm on my 2nd HMR. Great calibre imo but it's not what I need. I'm torn between a hornet or start to reload for 204 so can bring £/round down. 🤔

I would imagine the factory ammo price is much the same between a 204 and hornet. So either way- you're likely to end up reloading anyway.
 
If I got one it'd purely be a crow killer, only day time set up. I'm on my 2nd HMR. Great calibre imo but it's not what I need. I'm torn between a hornet or start to reload for 204 so can bring £/round down. 🤔
Hi Ben.
Have the crows gotten use to the HMR? They soon learn and will learn again if you up the rifle. Next it will be a 22-250 etc etc.
Why not use the 204? Or it set up for night only? Is it to heavy?
How about a roll reversal, the HMR for night and the 204 for the crows?
And get reloading, you could start for under 300£.
 
Hi Ben.
Have the crows gotten use to the HMR? They soon learn and will learn again if you up the rifle. Next it will be a 22-250 etc etc.
Why not use the 204? Or it set up for night only? Is it to heavy?
How about a roll reversal, the HMR for night and the 204 for the crows?
And get reloading, you could start for under 300£.
Hi mate. Yeah basically soon as they hear the bike now they're off. Its not a case of setting up decoys/hide etc and having proper sesh on them, I don't have the time (wish I did) so it's just sniping them from bike as I go around jobs.
204 is heavy but would be OK on bike. It currently has 008S on it but I'm putting that on 22lr so 204 will have day scope riding for short term at least (with 007 nv add on)
Yeah definitely looking at reloading. My enemy (as ever) is time. Start lambing January, be back to 70+hrs week then.
 
I used mine out to around 240 mtrs and it still has accurate legs for more than that, only reason I swapped it for a 22 hornet was having to track a couple foxes down, even though the shot placement was spot on, but accuracy and longer range shooting on rabbits it’s top drawer
HMR ? fail to expand reliably after 160 ! 240? Pretty much wont . Sheds velocity and it isnt really very fast to begin with , that said a rabbit and it doesnt take an expanding bullet , heck a 10 ftlb airgun will do the job
 
HMR ? fail to expand reliably after 160 ! 240? Pretty much wont . Sheds velocity and it isnt really very fast to begin with , that said a rabbit and it doesnt take an expanding bullet , heck a 10 ftlb airgun will do the job
HI BB
Apologies should have said 17 hornet not HMR I give up on HMR many years ago
 
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