.22 Semi Auto - S&W, Tippmann, Sig?

[ApexOrdnance]

Hi all

I've just put in a variation for a 22 semi auto and was interested in everyones opinion on the above. Essentially just for fun and plinking. We've got a few S&W at the club but they does seem to be alot of plastic on them, but reasonably priced. Any other suggestions to the above?

Cheers

 

[ApexOrdnance]

As an asside to the above. Gwent police now seem to have gone completely online for application variations etc. Non of the old phone numbers for licensing enquiries seem to work. There is also a note saying that due to Covid they are prioritising renewals (good thing I guess) and that variations are lowest priority and could be upto 8 weeks. Anyone had experience with Gwent police recently?

 

[kennyc]

I have a Sig 522 which I love, however if I was looking at a replacement for general plinking and club comp use I would be looking at the SW M&P 15-22 light, reliable and in the AR foem factor which just works.
whenever this subject comes up there are always folk that say "you must get XY or Z" as they are full weight, metal AR's with the ability to change uppers to have another calibre, IMHO in the context of the UK market, unless you want a practise rifle that is exactly the same as your comp rifle there is no need to go to the expense and extra weight of a metal AR (unless you want to in which case crack on !

 

[Muir]

I have the Smith. I don't think I have had a misfeed with it -even when running a binary trigger and a 50 round drum. (Full to empty in about 4.5 seconds) It is accurate and reliable. I replaced the foreend with a slim aluminum one because my rifle was an old style and had all the pic-style attachment points on the foreend. This foreend modification also improved the off hand shooting qualities. The magazines are sturdy and easy to keep clean.~Muir

(Not on the list but a "clone" I like is the ISSC Mk22 rifle. Heavier than the Smith and not as easy to do work on, but a very acurate rifle.)

 

[Mr. Gain]

The S&W is a sound rifle, but for a model with more good metal in it the Tippmann sits nicely in between the S&W and a full 5.56-spec build, and the probably-superfluous weight and cost that entails. Reliability is excellent, function is entirely authentic, and there's a good deal of compatibility with aftermarket parts. I'd say the Kriss Defiance is also worth a look. I haven't used a SIG since they first came out, but I liked it then.

 

[ColinBr]

I use a Kriss defiance. No complaints from me with it

 

[ApexOrdnance]

Cheers for all the input. I've always liked the look of the S&W but had been put off by amount of polymer. I must say though the price is in the right place. Thanks all!

 

[Catweasel]

If it's any help, I'm a coach/instructor with a club that uses it's allotted quota of guest days as fund raisers for a Forces charity & various GB shooting squads.
On an average day, we see about 35 to 40 guests trying out four different disciplines at Bisley with the aim of letting them get as much shooting as possible during the day.
My particular speciality is in gallery rifle where we use the S&W and over the past four or five years, I can honestly say that I can count the number of problems we've had on one hand.
With regular and sensible cleaning, they just seem to go on & on using both subsonic & HV ammo (normally CCI MiniMag but whatever you do, don't use anything from Eley. It's filthy ammo & you'll be stopping to clean the breech face every 20 rounds - ask me how I know ).
Despite the abundance of polymer, when fitted with a simple red-dot sight, these rifles are great fun to shoot and have never failed to raise a huge grin from everyone that uses them, both experienced shooters and those that have never picked up a rifle in their lives.
Don't get me wrong, Kriss Defiance & Tippman are good rifles and are very effective in competition, but they are a bit on the pricey side if you just want to have some fun plinking.
Just my 2 pence worth but whatever you get, you'll enjoy it.
Iain

 

[Lever357]

I've used a S&W and really liked it. They're well made and priced. Also had a go of a Tippman and wasn't impressed by the thwack every time you pull the trigger - it's the full length buffer apparently. Certainly put me off it.

 

[bfltd0]

If you are set on going the military look route, any of the models mentioned will do the trick.

There is also the Ruger 10/22 that can be militarised with a number of after-market accessories and a base model can be found at quite reasonable prices. Many high-capacity mags available as well.

 

[ApexOrdnance]

Sounds like the S&W it is then, hopefully the variation goes as quickly as making my mind up. Looking at the league tables Gwent police aren't exactly breaking a sweat but if the shoe was on the other foot and I was waiting for a renewal I'd rather they didnt arse about with variations too.

 

[wytonpjs]

Food for thought My 10/22 in a Nordic Component’s chassis and a Grand Power K22. Great fun.......

 

[Erik Hamburger]

The Browning Buckmark rifle .22Lr s/a is another option - less tactical looking, which in my view is an advantage. Lovely small, light little rifle, of high built quality. (Not cheap....!)

 

[ApexOrdnance]

The Browning Buckmark rifle .22Lr s/a is another option - less tactical looking, which in my view is an advantage. Lovely small, light little rifle, of high built quality. (Not cheap....!)
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I'm not one to cause offense intentionally and beauty is always in the eye of the beholder but that has to be one of the ugliest rifles I've ever seen. Its almost like it can't decide what it wants to be. Again, my opinion only, no offense to anyone that owns and loves them.

 

[bfltd0]

I'm not one to cause offense intentionally and beauty is always in the eye of the beholder but that has to be one of the ugliest rifles I've ever seen. Its almost like it can't decide what it wants to be. Again, my opinion only, no offense to anyone that owns and loves them.

Bit like these I suppose. Take a perfectly good pistol, whack an oversize barrel on it, put a stock and fore-end on. Clearly an identity crisis in progress.................

Funny how firearms design gets recycled every few years.

 

[C h r i s]

Kriss Defiance. All metal, no FTF or FTEs, best semi auto .22 I've used, and I've tried most.

 

[Muir]

The Browning Buckmark rifle .22Lr s/a is another option - less tactical looking, which in my view is an advantage. Lovely small, light little rifle, of high built quality. (Not cheap....!)
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Screw looks. These Buckmark rifles are remarkable shooters. They are light, quick and straight to the shoulder, and extremely accurate. This is mine, a heavy barreled model.


Anyone who does not like them has never fired one afield. JMHO, of course. I have since put a Vortex Venom red dot on top. Very handy rifle.~Muir

And it happens to exchange magazines with this one....

 

[Sharpie]

Screw looks. These Buckmark rifles are remarkable shooters. They are light, quick and straight to the shoulder, and extremely accurate. This is mine, a heavy barreled model.


Anyone who does not like them has never fired one afield. JMHO, of course. I have since put a Vortex Venom red dot on top. Very handy rifle.~Muir

These are what the nice Mr. Westlake turns them into, for our peculiar pistol shooting laws: 12" barrel, 24" OAL with the permanent rod out the back, which actually balances them quite well.

 

[Muir]

Interesting -and sad at the same time. He is right: You don't need to work on these guns to make them accurate. They shoot right out of the box. My Buckmark pistol has a very similar brake from the factory.~Muir

 

[norcan]

I am trying to purchase a Volquartsen, a "10/22" clone..

All steel, integral picatinny rail, screwed in barrel...