ApexOrdnance
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Just had a look at these, certainly one to consider.Kriss Defiance. All metal, no FTF or FTEs, best semi auto .22 I've used, and I've tried most.
Just had a look at these, certainly one to consider.Kriss Defiance. All metal, no FTF or FTEs, best semi auto .22 I've used, and I've tried most.
I am not at all offended. What matters to me is that they work, and are very light and short, and easy to bring to the shoulder and shoot without sticks. Mine has a custom barrel with fully integrated moderator so a bit of a one-off as well. My rifles are TOOLS and and it is a good tool. Saying that, if you only want a .22Lr for hunting vermin, I would recommend to go for a b/a model, as the Blow-Back mechanism on this s/a is more noisy than the firing of the (subsonic) bullet.I'm not one to cause offense intentionally and beauty is always in the eye of the beholder but that has to be one of the ugliest rifles I've ever seen. Its almost like it can't decide what it wants to be. Again, my opinion only, no offense to anyone that owns and loves them.
I really like the look of these but what's the deal with the bentz chamber. Not familiar with this chamber, apparently its the semi auto version of a bolt action match grade chamber? Quite a few people saying they are ammo fussy? Can anyone confirm?Surprised no one has mentioned the Lantac LA-SF15 .22lr.
The only drawback is they are pricey but not much more than the Kriss Defiance. They are good, and that's from owning one, flawless and probably the most accurate AR model out there, even with a 12.5"barrel. Shot the others and if I'm honest they're good fun and value for money, just depends how accurate, how AR and how much you want to spend?
I'm comfortable spending a little extra on the rifle as long as its happy to eat on a budget.A friend had a Lantac and also claimed it was ammo fussy, so I went with the Kriss Defiance DMK in desert tan (tacti-cool ), this seems to accept any crappy .22 ammo. Its remarkably accurate, got a working forward assist and last round bolt hold, which many of the cheaper .22 autos dont have. Just noticed that they have gone up in price quite a bit since I bought mine in 2019.
I have the Lantac improved CMMG and only shoot subs through it. Works perfectly with CCI and Winchester (possibly RWS as well), won’t cycle Eley and some other brand which I forget of which I got a heap of given period.I really like the look of these but what's the deal with the bentz chamber. Not familiar with this chamber, apparently its the semi auto version of a bolt action match grade chamber? Quite a few people saying they are ammo fussy? Can anyone confirm?
The only ammo you cannot use in it is the CCI Stinger because of the BENTZ chamber and the Stinger cases being too long for it.A friend had a Lantac and also claimed it was ammo fussy, so I went with the Kriss Defiance DMK in desert tan (tacti-cool ), this seems to accept any crappy .22 ammo. Its remarkably accurate, got a working forward assist and last round bolt hold, which many of the cheaper .22 autos dont have. Just noticed that they have gone up in price quite a bit since I bought mine in 2019.
The Defiance is very good and it was a toss up between it and the Lantac which also has a working forward assist. The finish on the Lantac is better and is full AR.A friend had a Lantac and also claimed it was ammo fussy, so I went with the Kriss Defiance DMK in desert tan (tacti-cool ), this seems to accept any crappy .22 ammo. Its remarkably accurate, got a working forward assist and last round bolt hold, which many of the cheaper .22 autos dont have. Just noticed that they have gone up in price quite a bit since I bought mine in 2019.
Bentz chamber is just a far tighter tolerance match chamber with a shorter case length measurement hence you can't use CCI Stinger. It does without question make it more accurate.I really like the look of these but what's the deal with the bentz chamber. Not familiar with this chamber, apparently its the semi auto version of a bolt action match grade chamber? Quite a few people saying they are ammo fussy? Can anyone confirm?
The reality is about a year if you order a Lantac as I found out, suppose it depends how much of a rush your in to get one.One thing to be aware of is that the Lantacs are apparently assembled in the UK to order, so not 'made in the US' as stamped on the reciever (well I guess the individual parts are). And its a 4 month lead time..... which is strange as it doesnt take more than a few hours tro assemble an AR from component parts. I guess the delay is that the UK dealer doesnt keep sufficient parts in stock so orders them in from the US.