.22LR poor group - suspected scope had developed internal issue - tested

zambezi

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My club has embraced the 22NLR competition format with zeal in the last 9 months so I dusted off my little used Anschutz .22LR and checked zero.

First outing: Rubbish group. Tried 5 different ammos . Just degrees of poor grouping. So I asked a competent shot in our club to see if he could produce a decent group with the best ammo. Nope.

Checked scope mounts, action screws, cleaned barrel, fouled barrel, moderator on, moderator off...usual sequence and still no joy.

One seemingly repeatable symptom was that any change in windage was attended by a simultaneous change in elevation. So...had the scope's internals let go?

Per another thread's scope levelling method, I knew I could set up a crude test rig to find out whether the reticle was being governed appropriately by the dials. Simply: with the rifle held horizontally, a light shone into the objective lens will produce a silhouette of the reticle on a distant surface: IMG_7480.webp Once satisfied that the rifle was level and that the plumbline shadow was perfectly in sync with the scope reticle's vertical axis, I began to twiddle the windage. IMG_7484.webp IMG_7485.webp It tracked straight and true. No deviation in elevation. Testing the elevation achieved same.

At various points in the process, I applied a black sharpie dot on the wall and recorded the values on the elevation and windage turrets. I then wound the adjusters to their extreme limits and then back to recorded settings. Crosshairs came back to rest on dot.

I realise that this test is imprecise. A mechanical error causing a 4cm group at 100m may not be detectable over the 4m range of this photo-optical test. But equally there was no evidence of gross malfunction.

More web searching and I may have found a potential answer. Certainly it will be the basis of the next round of testing. What the YT pundit suggested is that the parallax adjustment on any given scope may be imperfect and described the way to test that by holding scope steady on target and moving eye. If reticle shifts wrt target, parallax is off. Nothing new. Pretty sure I did that sequence, but maybe imperfectly?

But...what the vid added looks to be a gem worth testing and sharing. Once you have set parallax as best as your eyes can determine [ignore distance values on scope dial, trust your eyes], then pull eye slightly back from ocular lens until shadow just starts forming evenly around whole scope image. Whenever shadow is a perfect doughnut, your eye is aligned to the reticle+target axis. Comments?
 
What scope are we talking about here? Many people have poor quality scopes on small rifles and changes in magnification and parralax adjustments can throw things in to a tizzy sometimes. I have had issues with mid range scopes as well.

.22LR is a pretty easy rifle to shoot with no recoil as such in terms of the user flinching etc. With another known good shot also suffering poor groups, it is clearly something equipment related as you have realised the same issues with various ammunition.

These things generally are either scope or mounting issues in my experience. I mean it could be a battered barrel crown or a knackered striker spring but probably not. If it shot well before, it should shoot well now.

Put another scope on and/or change mounts. I had an issue with mounts on an Anschutz once. They were mounted on the action dovetails and I had not realised the top of the receiver was rounded and effectively convex. The mounts were bottoming out ever so slightly on the top of the receiver and I presume were moving slightly but not all the time. For instance, I could get a decent group and then suddenly it would be scattergun. Drove me up the wall as I was changing scopes and trying it without a mod and all the usual things but changing the mounts was one of the last things I did and when I did, problem solved. Never really been a fan of mounting direct to dovetails. No idea how your optic is mounted but scope and mounts are where I direct my attention first when these frustrating results occur.
 
I had a similar problem and resolved it by re-crowning, now hole in hole, I used the brownells re crowning tool but best result was with the drill following the direction of the barrel twist
 
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