.25-06 v 6.5

Thank you for you response, I greatly appreciate it,

do you have a preferred “blend”? for want of a better term, for the smaller species v lowland reds?
Thanks
I have been using Nosler Partitions 115grain and RL19 going at approx 3050fps for everything. Shot a lot of deer of all species with them and had great results.
 
Stop using viht data as a reference, you are ignoring the fact they are using a 23” barrel for the 25 and 26.5” for the swede so not a fair comparison.

Nosler and Sierra both show around 100 FPS increase with the 25-06 for a 120 bullet. I wasn’t arguing whether that’s worth it, just the fact the bigger case with a higher pressure limit will shoot bullets faster, and yes, it is that straight forward
No need to be defensive ol’ son - I actually used Viht data which was easy to access, available and the 25-06 loading was only published for one length of barrel ergo I had nothing else to compare. I have no doubt that depending on which powder data you quote or choose to load the 25-06 may well shoot faster (happy?) and I was not criticising it, indeed I am in the middle of acquiring one for my good lady - so how objective is that?
As I said in my response you do not need 3000+ fps to guarantee a dead deer (shot placement aside) the legislation is clear on that already and was presumably framed to provide a clean kill power de minimus so no need for any fuss - they both do the job more than well. Nuff said.
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In my Tikka 25-06 I use 100gn Barnes ttsx with RL22 and am getting 3250 FPS out of a 22.5” barrel. Before that was using 117gn scierra gameking with RL22 getting 3050fps from same rifle no problems on the hill. Yes you will get more options in 6.5 but it’s a choice of what you like and what you are going to use it for.
 
In my Tikka 25-06 I use 100gn Barnes ttsx with RL22 and am getting 3250 FPS out of a 22.5” barrel. Before that was using 117gn scierra gameking with RL22 getting 3050fps from same rifle no problems on the hill. Yes you will get more options in 6.5 but it’s a choice of what you like and what you are going to use it for.
I think to be honest I’ve set my mind to the .25-06, it’ll do what I want to for now , when I want to go for the bigger reds or heading towards boar I’ll have to look at a .30 calibre,
the components don’t seem to be too difficult to get hold of so it seems like a solid option
thanks
 
I use a 7mm Rem Mag on the hill as well but I got that just cos I wanted it but have never had an issue with the 25-06 and I shoot mostly reds
 
It's a really interesting subject especially when you throw the change to monolithic bullets into the mix.

I have always been confident shooting deer a bit further out using 6.5's as the high BC bullets carry energy well, minimise wind drift and providing you select the right bullet construction they expand well at lower velocities so the slower speeds of the heavy for calibre 6.5 bullets is not an issue.

With the change to monolithics the game is going to change a bit. You bullet construction is pre defined and copper in general does not expand well at lower velocities. As a result we have to increase MV if we want to stretch the range. As a result chamberings like 25-06 could make a bit of a resurgence as there are not many chamberings capable of launching a 100/110 gr bullet much faster - ideal for copper.

A 25-06 with a 100gr TTSX might be a near perfect combination for the new lead free era.
That’s what I am on, but in 6.5x55

I had a 25-06 for years, I did really like it however the options in non lead are few, and the stuff I used did not impress me at all-dead animals on the feet for uncomfortable periods (factory GMX)

I re barrelled my sako in 6.5x55 with a 26” sassen tube. With the help of a friend we made up a load that replicates a pokey 25-06 load, 100gn TTSX at north of 3300fps. Having just completed my red cull, animals up to 100kg, I can say with confidence it works. There are nuances that need understanding with this load as with any, but in general it’s a stonking round.
 
No need to be defensive ol’ son - I actually used Viht data which was easy to access, available and the 25-06 loading was only published for one length of barrel ergo I had nothing else to compare. I have no doubt that depending on which powder data you quote or choose to load the 25-06 may well shoot faster (happy?) and I was not criticising it, indeed I am in the middle of acquiring one for my good lady - so how objective is that?
As I said in my response you do not need 3000+ fps to guarantee a dead deer (shot placement aside) the legislation is clear on that already and was presumably framed to provide a clean kill power de minimus so no need for any fuss - they both do the job more than well. Nuff said.
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I wasn’t being defensive, I was just setting your misinformation that they were capable of the same straight. Nosler’s data is equally readily available but is better for comparisons as you are not limited to 1 manufacturer’s powder choices.

I personally would choose a 6.5x55 over a 25-06 any day of the week.
 
When I thought about changing my 6.5x55 to a .25-06 and asked for opinions, I had far more people telling me to keep the 6.5. I've always had a lot of time for the old Swede, it's a very adaptable cartridge. For close range velocity isn't a good thing in my experience. The 6.5x55 can run the lighter bullets pretty fast but is also able to launch up to 160gr if you ever need it to.
 
When I thought about changing my 6.5x55 to a .25-06 and asked for opinions, I had far more people telling me to keep the 6.5. I've always had a lot of time for the old Swede, it's a very adaptable cartridge. For close range velocity isn't a good thing in my experience. The 6.5x55 can run the lighter bullets pretty fast but is also able to launch up to 160gr if you ever need it to.
I've seen quite a few Moose , Elk and Bears thumped up close with 160s out of a Swede , works great . I really like the 25/06 , but I still prefer a 6.5 . No scientific proof , I just like it .

AB
 
I see the confusion, no I don’t own a .30-06, I’ve shot one many times and loved it, much the same with the .25-06, hence wanting a .25-06.

The only reason I mentioned meat damage was regarding using a .30-06, ie being far too excessive, not owing one.
I understand that heavy bullet will do less meat damage (subjectively) than a light bullet travelling considerable faster.
I’ll try to be clearer with my posts
There you go, get yourself a 25-06 and enjoy yourself.
@sauer enlighten us.
 
I've seen quite a few Moose , Elk and Bears thumped up close with 160s out of a Swede , works great . I really like the 25/06 , but I still prefer a 6.5 . No scientific proof , I just like it .

AB
I guess the scientific proof would be sectional density? Pass through with the 6.5 is almost guaranteed on a lot of game. The SD of a 160gr 6.5 is .328 - that's up there with the best of them when it comes to penetration.
 
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