Available: 3 days Traditional Hunting for Moose with Dogs in Lapland

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We went last year with John and Christian running it out there we only got 1days moose hunting because 3 were shot on the first day, not what we booked was it John as we all pointed out at the time but we made te best of it and made it a great trip even tho we didn't get the hunting promised.

not strictly true.
a large cow was shot in the back leg and ran 4km over the boundary and the club had specified NO cows. This now involved the neighbouring club who also don't shoot cows, thus loosing face, a political nightmare.
This left us in a quandary the club wanted us off because of this. She also had milk so there was a calf somewhere and day 2 was spent doing small drives in the area looking for the dependant. The club was not happy. day 3 no moose dogs were available as the club members pulled out of the hunt. so we looked for whitetail with the landowners dog which are there but in not big numbers and 1 was seen in a drive. You hunted most nights from the tower also if I remember so got in plenty of hunting in, which was the best of a bad job considering we could have all been going home after the cow incident. It was neither mine or Christians fault a cow was shot when forbidden and I think the fine we paid and Christians diplomatic skills on that night were good. Roe, pig, moose and a coon dog were taken on that trip and you yourself shot a large boar. Where you got the deluded idea that there would be a moose tag for every hunter every day is beyond me the moose would have to be like munjac to do that. And the logistics in moving 8 moose every day and skinning them would have been immense. Animals were there in numbers it was a successful hunt and would have been awesome had the incident not happened. Not blaming anyone else. If your on a cock shoot you don't shoot hens, if you do the keeper will fine you or send you home or both.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

I wouldn't bank on anything we got nothing last year When we went we all slept in 1 hut many on mattereses & only got 1 days moose hunting

Dustin, you shot a wild boar keiler and was it you brother shot the first moose last year? I remember you sat out every night for wild boar and hogged the best tower getting every extra on offer for free!!. Then you told us about all the pigs you'd shot at home! 2 other moose were shot and a cow in the arse in one day. That cow could have seen a massive fine and **** storm for the hunter and the club as it had followers but Christian went out of his way to sort it because a follower was shot too from the group. We continued with hunting for moose and whitetail but the club members wouldn't join us because certain attitudes disgraced our group. The club ground refused to allow invites on that ground after that because the cow ended up on another club ground and 4 km away and all some people were concerned about was killing more moose! That cow cost the club 2 tags where the followers were half a tag each.

Remember I shot two roe and Rich shot a racoon dog, with 3 moose and a keiler.. For the small group of us that was good going. You were shown pictures of the cabin pre booking and nothing was unclear from what information you had. The fins respect their quarry and between the kill everything attitude bragged off in the cabin in front of them after the cow was shot, you wonder why they wouldn't hunt with us after that? Bragging you would shoot any moose you saw in front of the fins was a great move by the way.

Tell it as it is or f'k off trying to stir

 

[pheasant sniper 1]

talked to Christian just a little while ago, he is travelling home today but will be there this evening. He is going to respond after he's had a chance to read through what's been said. See what he says and or offers

Thats fair enough Paul,

Dont you agree this could have easily been put to bed as I spoke with Christian each evening as did all the group..

By not giving this imediate attention while we were there all Christian has achieved is more fractious feelings and people quite rightly upset at the shambles that was provided.

I look forward to his justification in cramming in an extra 6k of business whilst leaving 10 men in a four bed cabin.

Terry

 

[CWMMAN3738]

You used to work for the government did you John because thats the only place I've seen spin like that, I'd quit while your out even John because even if that was true it's not What was sold to us by you is it? your memory is far worse than mine but think we should not go down that road unless you want that can of worms opened. Please try & be factual if you continue to post at least, it was a great few days & sport was had but many of us never even got the opertunity to shoot a moose as advertised, but as stated not what we booked, if you doubt this understand it's why we (5 of us from that trip) are going away with someone else this year for our overseas hunt & next year too.

not strictly true.
a large cow was shot in the back leg and ran 4km over the boundary and the club had specified NO cows. This now involved the neighbouring club who also don't shoot cows, thus loosing face, a political nightmare.
This left us in a quandary the club wanted us off because of this. She also had milk so there was a calf somewhere and day 2 was spent doing small drives in the area looking for the dependant. The club was not happy. day 3 no moose dogs were available as the club members pulled out of the hunt. so we looked for whitetail with the landowners dog which are there but in not big numbers and 1 was seen in a drive. You hunted most nights from the tower also if I remember so got in plenty of hunting in, which was the best of a bad job considering we could have all been going home after the cow incident. It was neither mine or Christians fault a cow was shot when forbidden and I think the fine we paid and Christians diplomatic skills on that night were good. Roe, pig, moose and a coon dog were taken on that trip and you yourself shot a large boar. Where you got the deluded idea that there would be a moose tag for every hunter every day is beyond me the moose would have to be like munjac to do that. And the logistics in moving 8 moose every day and skinning them would have been immense. Animals were there in numbers it was a successful hunt and would have been awesome had the incident not happened. Not blaming anyone else. If your on a cock shoot you don't shoot hens, if you do the keeper will fine you or send you home or both.

 

[CWMMAN3738]

Touchy touchy Paul try. & be factual at least, alistar cable would be proud.

Dustin, you shot a wild boar keiler and was it you brother shot the first moose last year? I remember you sat out every night for wild boar and hogged the best tower getting every extra on offer for free!!. Then you told us about all the pigs you'd shot at home! 2 other moose were shot and a cow in the arse in one day. That cow could have seen a massive fine and **** storm for the hunter and the club as it had followers but Christian went out of his way to sort it because a follower was shot too from the group. We continued with hunting for moose and whitetail but the club members wouldn't join us because certain attitudes disgraced our group. The club ground refused to allow invites on that ground after that because the cow ended up on another club ground and 4 km away and all some people were concerned about was killing more moose! That cow cost the club 2 tags where the followers were half a tag each.

Remember I shot two roe and Rich shot a racoon dog, with 3 moose and a keiler.. For the small group of us that was good going. You were shown pictures of the cabin pre booking and nothing was unclear from what information you had. The fins respect their quarry and between the kill everything attitude bragged off in the cabin in front of them after the cow was shot, you wonder why they wouldn't hunt with us after that? Bragging you would shoot any moose you saw in front of the fins was a great move by the way.

Tell it as it is or f'k off trying to stir

 

[Paul at Fechan]

Your right mate and I've no doubt in hindsight, he will know he should have sorted something out at the time to sort it. Being back though hunting with him in Sweden and Finland though I'm trying to play fair, I've seen hostel

So about that SD week... (I always look for silver linings)

 

[Paul at Fechan]

You used to work for the government did you John because thats the only place I've seen spin like that, I'd quit while your out even John because even if that was true it's not What was sold to us by you is it? your memory is far worse than mine but think we should not go down that road unless you want that can of worms opened. Please try & be factual if you continue to post at least, it was a great few days & sport was had but many of us never even got the opertunity to shoot a moose as advertised, but as stated not what we booked, if you doubt this understand it's why we (5 of us from that trip) are going away with someone else this year for our overseas hunt & next year too.

Shooting a cow with milk is a crime in Finland and the penalties are severe. Fines are high and the club would lose the tags for the season without question if reported. You said you would shoot any moose you saw after this happened in front of the Fins who all understand English despite not all speaking it well. When specific instructions say don't shoot something, you don't shoot it. The fault was with the guns and not the the organisers. The club members wouldn't hunt with us after that because of this and the complete lack of respect shown by some.

 

[Jimbo 30 06]

I am so glad it was all booked up when i spotted the thread otherwise i would have been ripped off to. Sorry you lads had a bad time and your hard earned cash spent for nothing.

Jimbo

 

[JC275]

Shooting a cow with milk is a crime in Finland and the penalties are severe. Fines are high and the club would lose the tags for the season without question if reported. You said you would shoot any moose you saw after this happened in front of the Fins who all understand English despite not all speaking it well. When specific instructions say don't shoot something, you don't shoot it. The fault was with the guns and not the the organisers. The club members wouldn't hunt with us after that because of this and the complete lack of respect shown by some.

Sounds embarrassing for all concerned, personally I would be distancing myself from any connection with this incident rather than reorganising a similar trip the next year.

This Christian wouldn't be the same one who was a wannabe sporting agent who used to come on here pestering trade members every time some stalking was offered would he? He became a joke in the industry in this country.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

There was nothing wrong with the organisation of that trip and Christian is not be the same 'Christian' you're thinking about. One of our guns shot a cow moose that we were told specifically not to shoot which caused big problems all round on that hunt last year. That messed it up and we were lucky not to be turfed right off the ground at that point.

That was the guests cock up not the organisers, bit like foreign guests here shooting a dog on a driven day when no ground game is expressly instructed. The hunt would stop right there.

 

[Paul at Fechan]

Dustin, that hunt which I was on just like you had a good return based on exactly what was offered, this is considering a cow in milk got shot in the pelvis by one of our guns that could have saw a guy in real deep brown and the rest of us turfed right off the ground. Christian sorted that mess out and even managed to keep us hunting. We could have been looking at a huge police fine for one guy, a huge club fine for what happened because all their tags would have been lost and one of our lads going home without his rifle. Your understanding of how things went is way off the mark. Even after all this, 3 moose, a good boar, two roe and a coon dog got floored.

 

[PointBlank]

Dustin, that hunt which I was on just like you had a good return based on exactly what was offered, this is considering a cow in milk got shot in the pelvis by one of our guns that could have saw a guy in real deep brown and the rest of us turfed right off the ground. Christian sorted that mess out and even managed to keep us hunting. We could have been looking at a huge police fine for one guy, a huge club fine for what happened because all their tags would have been lost and one of our lads going home without his rifle. Your understanding of how things went is way off the mark. Even after all this, 3 moose, a good boar, two roe and a coon dog got floored.

I don't think that hunt had no resemblance to what we experienced, they actually saw something! But as they say we are all judged by our last **** up and I think we can all be in no illusion that the one we all went on was a balls up of the highest order

 

[Stephenl]

Although I was not on this trip I was on the trip last year there are some points that are similar. We are all going to have our own accounts of what happened and what didn't. I thoroughly enjoyed the trip I went on as it was something different. Would I say it was perfect,no I wouldn't but as this was only the second trip that had been put together I expected some teething problems and this is hunting after all.

I was made aware of the accommodation details before I went and got what I more or less expected although the lodge was smaller than expected for the size of the group.
At no point where we told that there where limited tags for Moose until after 3 Moose where shot on day one or that we could not shoot young males or had to shoot a cub first if with a adult female etc until the briefing on day one.
Comment was made by the Fins that it was almost unheard of that 3 Moose are shot in one day, this indicates to me that they where not expecting any sort of numbers to be shot over the whole 3 days by the group.
Of the 3 Moose shot on day one, only two where shot by guns in the Group. The 3rd was shot by a local club member , not by one of our group, by mistake as he thought it was wounded by one of the group guns. This caused a issue as young bulls should not have been shot at all. Yes one of the guns shot a cow but mistakes happen even by the experienced! Given that we where told by Christian to put as much lead into any Moose we see as they move fast even if they are behind trees or vegetation I can understand why the trigger was pulled. Having never seen a Moose I would not have been able to tell if it was in milk or not. We where on position on our own with no radio so had no expert advice on hand if we saw a Moose. I can understand the issue caused by the shooting of a adult female but why was the entire group penalised and what happened to the club member who shot the young bull??
We where issued our shooting permit which I understood required a shooting test on a moving target on a range even though we never went to the range. Our shooting test consisted of checking that our rifles where zeroed in a field shooting shooting at a box.

So yes there where issues, but I still enjoyed the trip. A number of animals where shot inluding the boar and Roes and that smelly Racoon Dog!! I took it all as teething problems in a new venture but in reading the experiences on the last trip I don't think I will go back.

 

[Jimbo 30 06]

I am so glad it was all booked up when i spotted the thread otherwise i would have been ripped off to. Sorry you lads had a bad time and your hard earned cash spent for nothing.

Jimbo

 

[CWMMAN3738]

Quite rite Stephen and it was advertised as moose hint with no limits or trophy fees conditions were only exposed once we began hunting and even then not totally clear as you said and all the other hunters who had paid for 3 days on moose only got 1 supposedly because a cow was shot (which wasn't in milk as the shooter grollached & butcherd it with our help along with all the other animals shot, (having taught you how to grollach paul )for the Finns by the way, he did all the animals except Paul's roe.) which was totally acceptable in his eyes as he had paid for this and been told by Christine as you stated to "PUT LEAD DOWN " was I think the phrase used.

 

[CWMMAN3738]

Seems remarkably similar in many ways & they seemed most shocked that we had shot anything

I don't think that hunt had no resemblance to what we experienced, they actually saw something! But as they say we are all judged by our last **** up and I think we can all be in no illusion that the one we all went on was a balls up of the highest order

 

[Paul at Fechan]

I think any club member would be shocked when three and a half tags are blasted away in 5 minutes of hunting and one moodse in 4 km from your ground

 

[pheasant sniper 1]

So there are clearly historic and current issues with Hunt n Seek and not just on YRS hunt and Paul's because there were some lads out shooting birds from Dorset the week before we arrived and guess what !!! I was informed by a lad that was with them for a day they were unfekin happy also..

Talk it up anyway you like, theres clearly issues with the packages and professionalism offered by Hunt n Seek.

Some people that went on our trip are not members of SD, some are but wont post. But one thing I can say for a fact is that all were extremely disappointed and upset with the disgusting experience received in Finland

 

[pheasant sniper 1]

I think what is more bewildering is having 18 guns freezing their tits off on 80,000 acres and the only Big Bull Moose seen, finds its way onto a piece of Land where one of our lads was told he could not shoot it

So not only did we not drive past a single other hunting line or see another hunter, why did everybody else seem to drive past us whilst we were in the line supposedly being quiet waiting for Moose? It was laughable

All this adds to a lack of planning knowing who else was hunting and where, or it shows just what a small piece of ground Hunt n Seek have within this quoted "17,000 Hectare Private Forest"

Wasn't it odd we ****ed and messed about within the same couple of thousand acres

 

[Paul at Fechan]

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