.308 or .270

[Grannysmith]

270 kills em dead!

 

[Rowe84]

How does the 308 compare to the 6.5 creedmoor..?

 

[Foxyboy43]

How does the 308 compare to the 6.5 creedmoor..?

Sssstttriikke 1…..

 

[Selous]

For what its worth in any calibre discussion I always defer to the Sako data sheet which used to be in their boxes of ammo. They know a thing or two about making quality ammunition and their stats are very informative. Of course you/one can perfect your own loads which may well give better results but as a starting point it is very useful.

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And the logical answer lies in this table… 270 has two choices and 308 has eleven choices. It would be worth checking out other manufacturers tables too

 

[Woodsmoke]

.270 owner in the form of traditional English hunting rifle, Holland quick detach mounts with iron sights. Un-moderated and to remain that way. Let the banter begin!!

The only improvement would be to have it a Stutzen

 

[Foxyboy43]

The only improvement would be to have it a Stutzen

Ooooh! Wot a clever man!

 

[Mungo]

How does the 308 compare to the 6.5 creedmoor..?

Quite similar at short range (out to about 250-300m), though a lot depends on the bullet and load. I have a short barrelled CM shooting 143gr and longer barrelled .308 that I shoot both 150gr and 168gr with.

Regardless of load, .308 carries more energy at shorter range, but loses energy faster than CM, so beyond about 300-400, CM retains more energy. But since I don’t shoot past 400, that’s largely academic.

CM resists wind drift substantially more, and this starts to become very noticeable after about 200m.

.308 tends to produce less meat damage, but does make a bigger hole (though this is very dependent on bullet).

CM has noticeably less recoil when unmoderated. When moderated, there’s nothing in it.

All this means .308 might be a better choice for larger deer at short range - so I like it in thick woodland when stalking sika or red deer.

But the differences are very marginal. You could use either in any standard UK scenario quite happily. I am happy to admit that a lot of the differences between them are so small that my shooting probably isn’t good enough to really capitalise on them. A 1moa difference in wind drift is only meaningful if you can consistently shoot sub Moa!

 

[Adey]

For me it’s about barrel length if you want a light weight rifle normally with a short say 20” barrel the 308 out performs the 270 longer cartridge in a short barrel the 308 has a faster burn rate etc so I picked a carbon lite in 308 and am over the moon with the performance but ultimately not a lot of difference in all the medium calibers just pick the one that you think suits your rifle set up best short barrel long barrel cheers

 

[Mungo]

For me it’s about barrel length if you want a light weight rifle normally with a short say 20” barrel the 308 out performs the 270 longer cartridge in a short barrel the 308 has a faster burn rate etc so I picked a carbon lite in 308 and am over the moon with the performance but ultimately not a lot of difference in all the medium calibers just pick the one that you think suits your rifle set up best short barrel long barrel cheers

This.

I think a lot of people don’t fully realise how much performance they lose when they shoot a .270 with a 20 inch barrel.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

I have loved reading all these comments. you should ask yourself at what quarry you will most be dispatching ,Where your shooting is mostly at, how often your hitting large deer and dont listen to the over and over again thoughts of the meny. A 207 is a flatter and more accurate than a 308 for deer stalking. The 3 main head sizes for a 270 are 130g, 140g, 150g,all do the job but find one you're rifle likes and stick to it. Are you going to reload you own ammo ? The real question's you need answer's for is go to your local range and test both as for the 308cal a 150 head will be the best for all Quarry but what do I no I only do it for a living and use both 270 and 308 not at the same time haha and once you can shoot head and upper neck shoots are all you need to carry out no meet loss I HOPE THIS HELPS Ian

Heads = you win. Bullets = I win, agh!! Do you have a cockdickwillytrousersnake or just a penis?

 

[alberta boy]

Heads = you win. Bullets = I win, agh!! Do you have a cockdickwillytrousersnake or just a penis?

I prefer the term " swimsuit parts " .............. and projectiles . Didn't see that one coming , did you .

AB

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

I have. 168gr eldm from a .308 at 60 meters. Down like a puppet with the strings cut.

However, that was the exception. They do like to run...

old thread I know, but how'd you find using match bullets? I always thought they're thin jackets would lead to detonation and low penetration.

Have a few Amax's knocking about

 

[C&K Suffolk]

.308 all day

 

[Mungo]

old thread I know, but how'd you find using match bullets? I always thought they're thin jackets would lead to detonation and low penetration.

Have a few Amax's knocking about

At short range they can be quite explosive, so you do lose quite a lot of meat. At long range, they’re great.

I shot with 168gr eldm to 280m in .308.

I now use 147gr eldm in 6.5PRC, and have shot to 420m with them. Work very well.

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

At short range they can be quite explosive, so you do lose quite a lot of meat. At long range, they’re great.

I shot with 168gr eldm to 280m in .308.

I now use 147gr eldm in 6.5PRC, and have shot to 420m with them. Work very well.

Most of my ground is fairly open so shots are around 150 to 250. I might give them a whirl. Although I'd hate to hit a bone and have it explode

I've a box of SSTs that I'm also afraid to use Super Hammerheads have been good to me

 

[macfarlane]

I would go with .308. Plenty of available options on rifles from all the main manufacturers both new and second hand. Plenty of ammo options here and overseas, a very forgiving round for shorter barrels I.e. 20 inch. Ideal for boar if you have the opportunity.

Also what’s interesting on this thread the number of people now opting for a .243 as their foxing rifle often with dedicated night vision.

Is this a growing trend and is it related to the emergence of copper and the need for a heavier bullet? Will we see fewer .223s and triple twos out in the field after foxes?

I know I’ve sold my .223 and kept my .243 as a dedicated foxing rifle and am using only my 6.5x55 and 30-06 for deer.

Just deciding which dedicated digital NV scope to put on my .243.

Start another post asking the same would be interesting.