alberta boy
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Ha , 2 and 6 , I packed an L1A1 for a while myself , as you say SOP .No. They were always set to 6 as per SOP prior to firing, and then adjusted as needed
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Ha , 2 and 6 , I packed an L1A1 for a while myself , as you say SOP .No. They were always set to 6 as per SOP prior to firing, and then adjusted as needed
I'm rather fond of mine . Getting back to the OP , they're both really effective , and versatile cartridges . I've owned a few of both over the years . Find a rifle that fits you properly and use bullets appropriate to the game your after . With heavier or tougher bullets , the 270 isn't any more destructive than other rounds within the same velocity range . With lightly constructed bullets at close range , a 308 can make a mess as well . I've taken a fair amount of game with both rounds , I can't say there's much difference between them , or a lot of other cartridges mentioned above . Choose either and put some thought into what bullet will do what you need at the ranges you expect to use them at . To be honest , that can be said of any cartridge . This isn't directed at the OP , but Phil Shoemaker , a man I respect a lot , once said , " It's time to quit the ballistic masturbation and go and shoot something " .The answer is obvious!
Bang in the middle...7mm-08
You can do that, and I did try it. But then I got lucky with a couple of hundred Winchester cases. The 140gn SST I mentioned shot really well, but the rifle was originally bought to hunt Sambar Deer in Victoria. I no longer had that desire so I re-barrelled it. I'd Chronographed the 140's at 3,060fps. The powder was H4831sc.Surely you just neck down 7x57
It’s nearly as good as the 6.5 creedmoorAlways nice to see a proper ballistics table.
Looking at the numbers, it's impressive how well the full-power 6.5x55 loads perform. Comparing like bullet design for like, the 139-gr Racehead suprisingly manages to retain slightly more energy at 300 m than the 168-gr Racehead in 308, as well as shooting substantially flatter.
More surprising yet is that it has more energy at 300 m than all sub-.30-calibre offerings except the 7 mm magnum, and even outdoes all but one each in 308 and 30-06.
The 6.5x55 also has less drop than both 270 loads and all but one for the 30-06, although they're not directly comparable due to having different bullet profiles. Still, having only 31.7 cm drop at 300 m puts it in very good company on that table.
What a difference from the reduced-power loads that lead some to believe that it has a loopy trajectory!
My point was, it’s easy to get brass for one!You can do that, and I did try it. But then I got lucky with a couple of hundred Winchester cases. The 140gn SST I mentioned shot really well, but the rifle was originally bought to hunt Sambar Deer in Victoria. I no longer had that desire so I re-barrelled it. I'd Chronographed the 140's at 3,060fps. The powder was H4831sc.
Yes, and the best part is that it all it took was 113 years to come up with a 6.5 mm cartridge that's only slightly inferior to the Swede.It’s nearly as good as the 6.5 creedmoor![]()
243 will do everything with lead
.270 owner in the form of traditional English hunting rifle, Holland quick detach mounts with iron sights. Un-moderated and to remain that way. Let the banter begin!!That was my thoughts entirely, and haven't regretted my choice at all.
If you want to have fun out of owning the rifle, even when you're not using it, then definitely go 270.
If you post on here that you own a 308, responses will be along the line of "oh, so what?" and a non-committal shrug of the shoulders (a bit like admitting that you play the banjo).
However, confess to owning a 270 and you'll be greeted with roars of laughter, a load of leg pulling and lots of lively, good natured banter will ensue (particularly if you confess to not having a moderator).
Indeed - each are absolutely super rounds though in fairness the conclusion about flat shooting is not borne out by Sako’s own figures in my post No. 51 where the venerable .308 seems to show the way…..I have loved reading all these comments. you should ask yourself at what quarry you will most be dispatching ,Where your shooting is mostly at, how often your hitting large deer and dont listen to the over and over again thoughts of the meny. A 207 is a flatter and more accurate than a 308 for deer stalking. The 3 main head sizes for a 270 are 130g, 140g, 150g,all do the job but find one you're rifle likes and stick to it. Are you going to reload you own ammo ? The real question's you need answer's for is go to your local range and test both as for the 308cal a 150 head will be the best for all Quarry but what do I no I only do it for a living and use both 270 and 308 not at the same time haha and once you can shoot head and upper neck shoots are all you need to carry out no meet loss I HOPE THIS HELPS Ian
I trust you won't be too offended? I have abbreviated your response slightly, but still kept the important bit...If most of your stalking is open hill then 270, mixed woodland / farmland etc then 308. And for boar then 308.. Best all round calibre
But as others have pointed out 7x57 well worth a look as it can shoot fast and flat like a 270, or with a bigger 156 / 173 gn bullet deal with bigger animalsthough in my view inthe 7x64.It is loaded a little hotter than most 7x57 ammo, it has a faster 1 in 8 twist so will stabilise any bullet, especially non-toxic, has modest recoil, especially with lighter bullets yet more than capable of taking just about any four legged game animal.
But it’s not that popular in the UK which I do find surprising.
And don’t discount the 30-06 either.
To be honest find a nice rifle that firs you in any of the above calibres and you would be adequate for anything that doesn’t need a 375
Go on, you know you really need a 7 x 64, best of both worlds.Just thought I would save @scrumbag the trouble of posting!
David.
No offence taken. I really don’t understand why the 7x64 has never become more popular in the UK. It really is a perfect mix of wide choice of bullet, plenty of thump, but without a sharp recoil, and with lighter bullets, minimal recoil. Its flat shooting for long range open ground, and yet can shoot a long ballistically efficient bullets to take big bodied lowland deer. its always had a 1in 8.5” twist so also future proof for copper bulletsI trust you won't be too offended? I have abbreviated your response slightly, but still kept the important bit...![]()
7x64 is everything that the .270 is trying so hard to be...