First FAC in Scotland – .270 vs .308 vs 6.5×55 vs something else as all‑round stalking calibre?

Just to clarify what I'm saying say you get a 308 for deer and then someone offers you a lovely 223 at silly money. You would then need to put in a variation (£45), wait x number of months then find out he sold it to someone else.

I can't see a reason not to have that slot on your ticket from the start tbh.

Thanks, this is exactly what I'm hoping to avoid, get the right calibres in at the start as much as possible and minimise interactions because they seem to be a hassle too often.
 
A .223 would be a better option than the .22lr, .308 will tick all your needs as a stalking rifle with plenty of lead free ammo choices and available everywhere in the UK
 
.270 or .308 or split the difference and get a 7-08 I’ve never struggled for ammo with any of them

Wow, can't believe we've gotten to page 3 and the usual suspects haven't chimed in with 7x57 😂
7-08 and x57 are arguably two of the best deer stalking cartridges ever. The only limiting factor of the 08 is you can shoot heavier bullets better in the x57. For the life of me I can not figure out why that cartridge is not popular anymore over there. I had a Ruger 77 that I loved but gave it to my son for Christmas last year. Now he loves it. Ended up replacing it with two 6.5x55s.

Earlier my suggestions were based on the options in the OP. As has been mentioned though for a beginner the Creedmoor makes a lot of sense. Factory loadings will cover you from fox to hind without fuss.
 
Hi all,

Looking for some advice on calibres for my first FAC. I’m based in Scotland and looking to mainly focus on roe, fox and a bit of rough driven shooting, and I’ve also done guided red hind stalking with a view to booking more days, including in England and Wales.

Current plan for the application is:
- .22 LR (+ mod) for vermin and range practice
- One centrefire as an all‑rounder for roe and red, plus fox.

Mid to long‑term I’m conscious of non‑toxic ammo availability and cost.

For those of you stalking similar ground and quarry, would you lean towards .270, .308 or 6.5×55 as the main stalking rifle? Or would you go for something else entirely? Any thoughts on how that looks to Police Scotland on a first grant, and whether my “.22 + one stalking rifle” approach makes sense?

Thanks in advance.
I would say .243 win if your only shooting in Scotland as they have a more sensible take on the change to copper and you can now use 80 grain bullets . Indeed i just re-added a .243 to the collection for this reason . I think things like 308, 6.5 x 55 etc are not the best for your first foray into stalking . Less recoil and a lot easier to shoot AND SPOT WHERE YOU HIT THE BEAST THROUGH THE SCOPE. Also i find . The 243 though has a whole range of bullets from 55grain to 100 grain .
I seriously feel my 6.5mm with a 100 -120 grain in my .260rem ( similar would be a 6.5 Creed but it was only just emerging when i built the .260) . I kill 80% of Reds with a 100 grain TTSX though. That 6.5 of mine with its 100 grain barnes will go clean through a big red , even a double shoulder up to 400 yards . I have had bigger bullets from bigger guns but the only diffence when it comes to the honest fact is YOU BLOW BIGGER LUMPS OUT ON THE GROUND AFTER KILLING YOUR BEAST
 
7-08 and x57 are arguably two of the best deer stalking cartridges ever. The only limiting factor of the 08 is you can shoot heavier bullets better in the x57. For the life of me I can not figure out why that cartridge is not popular anymore over there. I had a Ruger 77 that I loved but gave it to my son for Christmas last year. Now he loves it. Ended up replacing it with two 6.5x55s.

Earlier my suggestions were based on the options in the OP. As has been mentioned though for a beginner the Creedmoor makes a lot of sense. Factory loadings will cover you from fox to hind without fuss.
I’ve had a 7-08 in my cabinet for the last 12 years or so had a .270 for years too but sold the .270 as there wasn’t enough in the cartridges to matter , used 140 gr soft pints for everything through the .7mm from fox to big red stags now have .22 .222 7-08 and .308
 
Thanks @M@tt you're exactly right, I think for the first few years at least I'm going to be looking for something that I can get ammo off the shelf for. I'm trying to get the calibres on initially that give me the most utility for what is going to be a steep learning curve.
Later down the line, if you have the slots but in the wrong calibre the variation is usually easy, just a few weeks or so to get changed, and the 1-4-1 variations are free.
 
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