Good luck finding the 35 gr version any time soon!
35gr .224 bullet
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jimmy milnes
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Vmax head...... You tease
Yeah i saw no benefit in paying a premium for the BT Noslers. They shot the same accuracy wise and were less destructive.
Where did you get your 53grain Varmegeddons from? Would be good to know for the times when my supplier has to wait ages to order mine in.
Not trying to annoy but those two projectiles lost the entire front half, I would bet large sums they expanded.
Rewulf
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Oooh I bet it was 3 years ago now, but I reckon it was Wentworths in Notts.
Not showing in stock now , but it might be worth giving them a call.
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I thought that , considering they hit a concrete wall , theyve not really 'mushroomed' but looks like the tips been torn off ?
My guess would be a deflection off something, before theyve hit the backstop.
WOW, hold your horses ! A ballistic tip guarantees nothing on impact performance. Impact speed and jacket thickness antinomy of the lead itself are relevant but reducing ricochet is really about the shot you take or more importantly dont take . This means every shot must find an area of rising soft ground at an appropriate angle and have a clear area behind that because its not like you can dig around checking for rocks etc before taking a shot. Consider adding an elevated shooting position 22 hornet has around 700 ftlb to loose a 22 lr up to 120 ft lb and an off ticket airgun sub 12 ft lb .
I blame the post office….Yes thanks. Thought the packaging could have been neater though!
K
Ttocs
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Just a quick note re 22 Hornet bullets vs HMR. If you use 35gr bullets in your 22 Hornet, you’ll find they are no better than your HMR in windy conditions. The bc of the 35gr .224 bullets is around 0.109 compared to the 17gr .172 Vmax with a bc of .125.
You‘re better of with the 40gr Vmax, or equivalent, as it has a much better bc ie, less affected by wind and very usable up to 200 yards. My Hornet spits the 40gr Vmax out at 3030f/s and gives fingernail sized groups at 200 yards in perfectly still conditions.
A bit late in the day but I’d have chosen a .172 centrefire - Hornet, Fireball or 17 REM. Firing a 20gr bullet with a bc of .185 around 4000f/s or more, they’re no more affected by wind than say a 223 or 222.
They can all ricochet (I’ve heard my 22 Hornet ricochet a couple of times) but with the 17’s there’s less lead and it’s moving much faster.
Always asssume the bullet will ricochet and ensure you have an appropriate backstop.
N
You‘re better of with the 40gr Vmax, or equivalent, as it has a much better bc ie, less affected by wind and very usable up to 200 yards. My Hornet spits the 40gr Vmax out at 3030f/s and gives fingernail sized groups at 200 yards in perfectly still conditions.
A bit late in the day but I’d have chosen a .172 centrefire - Hornet, Fireball or 17 REM. Firing a 20gr bullet with a bc of .185 around 4000f/s or more, they’re no more affected by wind than say a 223 or 222.
They can all ricochet (I’ve heard my 22 Hornet ricochet a couple of times) but with the 17’s there’s less lead and it’s moving much faster.
Always asssume the bullet will ricochet and ensure you have an appropriate backstop.
N
My son has popped more prairiedogs than he could count with his CZ Hornet and 35 grain VM.~Muir
As a point of interest, at what distance were you engaging with the target when those couple of ricochets occurred?
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Ttocs
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The two ricochets I’m aware of (because I heard them zinging off into the distance) were 1. A shot at a rabbit 40 yards away - it was down hill (into valley bottom) in a bit of a hollow and I assume the bullet hit the ground some distance in front of the rabbit as it was still rising to the line of sight (100 yard zero). 2. A shot at a fox 140 yards away of sticks on a flat field in front of steadily rising grass fields (fields rise up to the fell top where they become heather) - just a simple miss - the fox ran about 100 yards and stopped to have a look back - the second round dropped it on the spot at about 130 yards (Pard LRF on rifle).
I should add that both ricochets we’re on land where, I had a generous backstop and there was nothing, houses, roads, farm buildings, stock etc, within well over 1000 yards - but the sound of a ricochet still makes me cringe.
I think we have a lot more ricochets than we know of. The Hornet is quite quiet so you can hear a ricochet but I also think, if you can hear it it’s not travelling too fast and won’t go too far because of its poor aerodynamics; I think it’s the ones we don’t hear we should worry about - backstop, backstop, backstop!
N
I should add that both ricochets we’re on land where, I had a generous backstop and there was nothing, houses, roads, farm buildings, stock etc, within well over 1000 yards - but the sound of a ricochet still makes me cringe.
I think we have a lot more ricochets than we know of. The Hornet is quite quiet so you can hear a ricochet but I also think, if you can hear it it’s not travelling too fast and won’t go too far because of its poor aerodynamics; I think it’s the ones we don’t hear we should worry about - backstop, backstop, backstop!
N
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