6.5 Creedmoor - 95gr v-max and superformance

[6.5Roestalker]

I have Superformance powder because I usually use 127/ 143 gr bullets. But I also have some 95g v-max bullets and I would like to know if it is safe to load with Superformance.

Hornady load data includes Superformance for the 120gr bullets (48.5gr, which is a full case), but not the 95-100gr bullets so I have always assumed superformance is not an option for the 95gr.

While a faster burning powder would be better, would it be safe to use the 120gr load data with 95gr bullets. Could low pressure/ slow burn cause safety issues, or would it just act like a reduced load? If it is safe, is there any way of estimating the velocity?

 

[NP435]

While I doubt any problem with pressure will result by using a projectile that weighs that much less than the data shown uses. My problem is why do this at all? Is there any other data that supports this idea? Good luck to you. Its your rifle and eyes, fingers ect. I like mine intact.

 

[6.5Roestalker]

That’s exactly why I’m asking the question. If the only issue is that velocity will be a bit slower than the faster burning powders then that’s one thing, but if experienced members on here think that a slow burning powder and lighter bullet could cause safety issues then it’s not an option. Until now I have only loaded using the hornady and Barnes load data, which is why I’m asking for advice on here.

1) is it safe?

2) would velocity be much slower and therefore not worth it anyway.

 

[NP435]

That’s exactly why I’m asking the question. If the only issue is that velocity will be a bit slower than the faster burning powders then that’s one thing, but if experienced members on here think that a slow burning powder and lighter bullet could cause safety issues then it’s not an option. Until now I have only loaded using the hornady and Barnes load data, which is why I’m asking for advice on here.

1) is it safe?

2) would velocity be much slower and therefore not worth it anyway.

I will give some educated guess work as to why Hornady has no data. They tried it and the results were sub-par (accuracy). Perhaps your premise of lack of velocity was the problem. After all Super Performance is intended for max velocity's. Some of my reading of information from a retired ballistician said they also reject loads based on the curve shown on the oscilloscope. Is it safe? That's the question . Perhaps some of the industry professionals might weigh in.

 

[Kiwiguy]

A gun store owner convinced me that Superformance is great in the 22-250 so I bought a 1lb bottle.
When I searched for load data it only went down to 60 grain projectiles and I wanted to use 55 grain.
I emailed Hornady and the told me not to use it as their testing showed dangerous pressure spikes with anything below 60 grains.
That bottle of powder still sits unopened in my powder cabinet.

 

[6.5Roestalker]

Thanks for your replies. I’ll stick to the heavier bullets.

 

[Len the dog]

A gun store owner convinced me that Superformance is great in the 22-250 so I bought a 1lb bottle.
When I searched for load data it only went down to 60 grain projectiles and I wanted to use 55 grain.
I emailed Hornady and the told me not to use it as their testing showed dangerous pressure spikes with anything below 60 grains.
That bottle of powder still sits unopened in my powder cabinet.

That’s odd because Hornady manufacture Superformance ammunition in 22-250 down to 35gr NTX.

 

[6.5Roestalker]

Apparently Superformance powder is not the same as the powder used in the Superformance factory loads.

 

[Len the dog]

Apparently Superformance powder is not the same as the powder used in the Superformance factory loads.

Surely that’s asking for trouble?

 

[Kiwiguy]

That’s odd because Hornady manufacture Superformance ammunition in 22-250 down to 35gr NTX.

Apparently Superformance powder is not the same as the powder used in the Superformance factory loads.

The Hornady 10th edition manual lists no Superformance loads for the 22-250 below their 60 grain projectile. Possibly their Superformance lighter projectile ammo is loaded with a different type of powder.

 

[NullMac]

1) is it safe?

If you can't find any data for it and don't have quickload or similar then don't use it.

 

[PEA]

Ask someone with QL to run it and see if it looks ok to try.

 

[wellywoodie]

Hi
I load 101 gr Virtus bullets in the creed, I don’t use super performance but I can tell you that using N160, (medium to slow burning) doesn’t work, lucky to get a 2” group. I had to go to N140 to get good results. I swear buy this combo 42 gr N140 and the 101 gr bullets doing 3100 out of a blaser r8
I’ve worked up to that load, but that’s max stated on the Vit site.

Start low as always

 

[25 Sharps]

That’s exactly why I’m asking the question. If the only issue is that velocity will be a bit slower than the faster burning powders then that’s one thing, but if experienced members on here think that a slow burning powder and lighter bullet could cause safety issues then it’s not an option. Until now I have only loaded using the hornady and Barnes load data, which is why I’m asking for advice on here.

1) is it safe?

2) would velocity be much slower and therefore not worth it anyway.

1, It’s more than likely safe as it’s a slow powder for the application.

2, there’s better powders out there so why not use one?

 

[Minowa]

Ask someone with QL to run it and see if it looks ok to try.

Superformance isn’t listed in quickload as I think they keep changing the blend or Hornady won’t release the data on it. It’s not an overly fast burning powder either.