6.5x55 speed loads

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I decided to start some more experimenting to see what i can get out of the 6.5x55. Currently using the middle weight Foxclassic Hunter with good altho not excellent accuracy.

conventional loads tend to Focus in BC and SD with this cartridge.

What iam looking into now is a flat shooting long range speed demon to use more like a 22-250, 222 mag or 223.

Il try The lightest Fox classic hunter offering but i wonder what else is out there. Maybe something to push past 1000m/s

No particular "need" for it. Just curiosity, if i find something good i might try it for some 300-400m headshots on brown hare, see if i can break my record.

What bullets are actually out these that could enable the flattest trajectory out to that range
 
quite happy with my 123gr for deer. Would have liked tve 139gr more probably since to my liking fox bullets work just right around the 750-800m/s mark. But my barrel wont stabilise them, even tipless. Quite annoying really.

If anything i would use this for long range bunny plinking. Bit of a hobby of mine (i shoot for the dinner table but like a challenge).

Here is one from last year, about 250m with the 222, PMC factory ammo.

with my 6.5x55 wich suits me mutch better i hope to double that range eventually.
 

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Karhumies said:
quite happy with my 123gr for deer. Would have liked tve 139gr more probably since to my liking fox bullets work just right around the 750-800m/s mark. But my barrel wont stabilise them, even tipless. Quite annoying really.

If anything i would use this for long range bunny plinking. Bit of a hobby of mine (i shoot for the dinner table but like a challenge).

Here is one from last year, about 250m with the 222, PMC factory ammo.

with my 6.5x55 wich suits me mutch better i hope to double that range eventually.
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Hello Mate :-) may i ask how do the fox perform, tipless ? And what is the twist rate of your barrel in that rifle?
 
Yew tree tlr 114gn accurate and fast. N555 at up to 51gn with drop tube very quick. 3100fps. Obviously do you own testing
 
Scipio said:
Hello Mate :-) may i ask how do the fox perform, tipless ? And what is the twist rate of your barrel in that rifle?
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That rifle is about 1:8.6 On paper it should work according to Fox but real world results show keyholes.

in the 700-800m/s range from both my 6.5 and 30-06 the tipless fox make pretty clean holes all the way trough. dont know what else to say, in one shoulder and out the other, a tunnel the size of my thumb, that was a 150m shot on a roe buck.
 
Utectok said:
Yew tree tlr 114gn accurate and fast. N555 at up to 51gn with drop tube very quick. 3100fps. Obviously do you own testing
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interesting, i wonder if i could get peregrines to go that fast. Yew tree isnt imported here and small batch private import is too costly
 
Karhumies said:
That rifle is about 1:8.6 On paper it should work according to Fox but real world results show keyholes.

in the 700-800m/s range from both my 6.5 and 30-06 the tipless fox make pretty clean holes all the way trough. dont know what else to say, in one shoulder and out the other, a tunnel the size of my thumb, that was a 150m shot on a roe buck.
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yes, quite odd. :-|

But good to know about them working tipless. Because If one is loading more than one cartridge from the same case family, it might be a useful way of creating an easy visual difference. 👍
 
Scipio said:
yes, quite odd. :-|

But good to know about them working tipless. Because If one is loading more than one cartridge from the same case family, it might be a useful way of creating an easy visual difference. 👍
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yea. Mind you 139gr dont work even tipless in my rifle, keyholes. But on game the tipless ones are perfectly good. Honestly dont know why they even bother with those tips other than aestetic. fired them both way, saw little difference if any. If anything the tipless ones are a little more explosive
 
Karhumies said:
yea. Mind you 139gr dont work even tipless in my rifle, keyholes. But on game the tipless ones are perfectly good. Honestly dont know why they even bother with those tips other than aestetic. fired them both way, saw little difference if any. If anything the tipless ones are a little more explosive
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Well besides to maybe help control expansion, i suspect the tips might also be prefered for the slightly increased BC that they infer, as well as the perceived importance of that amongst some potential clients.:-| But i am just speculating.

EDIT: @Karhumies did fox say that the 139s should stabilize in your gun? Because though it is quite possible that my maths might be wrong here, i believe copper is 0.79% of the density of lead. So if we use that factor (and dont consider the density of the other alloys possibly present in the fox), then a 139 gr copper bullet equals a 176 one of lead, dimension wise.
That would be a very very long 6.5 bullet, longer than i have ever heard a 6.5x55 using. I mean if they produce it i assume it is because it does work for a good few rifles, but just doing the numbers it does sound very long :-|
 
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Scipio said:
Well besides to maybe help control expansion, i suspect the tips might also be prefered for the slightly increased BC that they infer, as well as the perceived importance of that amongst some potential clients.:-| But i am just speculating.

EDIT: @Karhumies did fox say that the 139s should stabilize in your gun? Because though it is quite possible that my maths might be wrong here, i believe copper is 0.79% of the density of lead. So if we use that factor (and dont consider the density of the other alloys possibly present in the fox), then a 139 gr copper bullet equals a 176 one of lead, dimension wise.
That would be a very very long 6.5 bullet, longer than i have ever heard a 6.5x55 using. I mean if they produce it i assume it is because it does work for a good few rifles, but just doing the numbers it does sound very long :-|
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website says the tipped one is for 1:8 and i emailed them about the tipless
 
hm, odd. I think you should insist that they send you the rifle that they used, to make it work then 🤠 ;)
 
I have encountered something like this before in reverse actually. A sako 222 with 1:14 twist stabilising 55gr FMJBT it shouldnt be able to. Might be individual differences in rifles.
 
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