6.8 fury
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Bavarianbrit
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How much psi do we really need to kill a boar/elk?
Magnumitis or mine is bigger than yours.
Magnumitis or mine is bigger than yours.
The design spec for the [6.8mm] .277 SigSauer Fury came from the military IIRC. What the Army wanted was more lethality with increased muzzle velocity and range in a lighter weight package, preferably delivering all that through a short barrel.
Whilst the Fury is good way to achieve that military requirement, I cannot see the need in the deerstalker/live quarry arena. Moderate barrel length suits most hunting applications. Where shooters need a compact rifle, they usually need less MV too as the environment is usually close quarters in woodland.
Also a 3000fps+ projectile is very likely to mar the carcasse and so waste valuable protein. But...they do market a Fury round for hunters...
Where the Fury might have a niche in civilian use is long distance target. But...the case design has a steel head to help withstand the 80k psi. And thinner case sidewalls to satisfy the military ask for the ammo to weight less. So I doubt the cases lend themselves to reloading which is exactly what the long-distance shooters do to develop competitive edge.
Whilst the Fury is good way to achieve that military requirement, I cannot see the need in the deerstalker/live quarry arena. Moderate barrel length suits most hunting applications. Where shooters need a compact rifle, they usually need less MV too as the environment is usually close quarters in woodland.
Also a 3000fps+ projectile is very likely to mar the carcasse and so waste valuable protein. But...they do market a Fury round for hunters...
Where the Fury might have a niche in civilian use is long distance target. But...the case design has a steel head to help withstand the 80k psi. And thinner case sidewalls to satisfy the military ask for the ammo to weight less. So I doubt the cases lend themselves to reloading which is exactly what the long-distance shooters do to develop competitive edge.
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trickie
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With what’s happening with 6.5 Calibre rifles, do you think for 1 minute that a round capable of producing that amount of pressure in a very ballistically coefficient bullet will be legal for civilian use in the UK
The standard round will quite possible be legal, but not the 3 piece case nor the projectile required to achieve those figures
The standard round will quite possible be legal, but not the 3 piece case nor the projectile required to achieve those figures
long_range_rob
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Two part case with steel case head would put me off.
True Velocity are the polymer case innovators. And they have a cartridge rival to the .277 SigSauer Fury in their line up.
If you want an unusual toy - go for the Fury. But for hunting I think .270 Win / 7.0mm would be a much better choice - at least until deer are genetically modified to have ceramic armour. At CIP 62,366 psi, ca. 23 inch barrel and hand loading for close to medium distances (300m or less) it is a flat shooting and powerful round. As a caliber, it has the distinct advantage of having generally good factory ammo choices all over the hunting world. Bullet makers are producing modern/high BC bullets (albeit a smaller selection than for 6.5 / 6mm bullets). In my mind an "oldy but a goody". I have one open on my certificate - really should fill that option.
what modern high BC bullets are there for .270 ?
oldie but goodie id say same for .25-06 ..... excellent hitting caliber and let down nowadays by lack of bullets choice ...there are a couple options of higher BC stuff in 130 ish grain size ... but most .25-06 are 1:10 twist and you need faster so re-barrel required... then copper / non lead ...only a smattering of choices in Uk ... as with .270.... long action so out of fashion but boy can it do a job !
Paul
I think one issue with the 6.8mm calibre is that there is less choice of bullets compared to the 7mm calibre. In 7mm you have a greater variety of weights and types of bullet construction because there have been faster twists as well as slower ones in the 7mm chamberings for a long time so bullets are available to suit both.
Ammo, powder and component supplies in the UK are in an extremely poor state - can't single out a particular calibre on that front. Although when generally available clearly greater choice for .223/.308/.30 CAL rounds. In my mind short action/short barrels are a US preference around the popularity for AR-15 type rifles - that personally is of no interest to me.
But in terms of the range, when available in the UK, with good performance and higher BCs - there is probably enough (see links below). The new bullet OEMs appear to have stock but not as cutting-edge as say Berger - but still a good choice of hunting rounds that can work. I tend to find one that works and stick with it. My experience of finding bullets that work for a 6.5x55 makes me believe that you can find a reloading solution with "slower" twist barrels.
Berger Bullets has a range of their VLD bullets across bullet weights.
Virtus 270
Yew Tree
Hornady 270 SST. (and across different weights in different bullet types - not all high BC)
Hornady 270 ELD-X
Barnes T-TSX
Fox Classic Hunter - Copper
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