6xc vs 243

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dodgyknees said:
I fully agree with what you’re saying, the only advantage my 6mm CM has over my .243 is the ability to reach out much farther with high BC bullets due to the fast twist. But I am curious to know why you would choose a case that needs more prep for high volume shooting like PRS competition? Is this because of the availability of the brass?

These days that is definitely a consideration - you simply cannot get hold of the brass for either the 6XC or 6mm Creedmoor here any more. All gone and none on the way.
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dodgyknees said:
I fully agree with what you’re saying, the only advantage my 6mm CM has over my .243 is the ability to reach out much farther with high BC bullets due to the fast twist. But I am curious to know why you would choose a case that needs more prep for high volume shooting like PRS competition? Is this because of the availability of the brass?

These days that is definitely a consideration - you simply cannot get hold of the brass for either the 6XC or 6mm Creedmoor here any more. All gone and none on the way.
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Because i have the slot, the brass, the high end dies and trimming equipment and i fancy one.
 
imwatchingyou said:
Because i have the slot, the brass, the high end dies and trimming equipment and i fancy one.
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I'm in the same boat - I have 200 brass, and some Redding and Wilson dies, 1-8 twist barrel.
I don't intend to go above 110gr bullets, so I didn't feel the urge to use a 1-7 or 1-7.5.
From experience, 1-8 does from the lightest 6mm bullets up to 105gr bullets and more.

I like the efficiency of the smaller cartridges - 6mm BR/XC/47L etc
 
dodgyknees said:
Seeing as how you’re not looking for an argument, I’ll keep it simple and state a fact: you are patently wrong and you should correct your statement to something like “my reloading skills couldn’t solve my rifle’s fussy barrel problems, and I gave up and decided to blame one of the most commercially successful and ubiquitous cartridges in the history of sporting rifles”.
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and so it begins ..........

Jamsie
 
Ok my take for what it’s worth a brand shinny new 6XC custom rifle will out shot a 60 year old worn out factory 243.

If both rifles are built to the same standard and twist barrel and you reload to good standard you’ll not notice a difference.

If you want a factory rifle and factory rifle the 6XC 6Cred etc will offer an advantage
 
I know nothing about other 6mm chambered rifles but my 243 with a 1:8 twist 26 inch Walther barrel copes very well with 80gr Yew Tree copper bullets and everything I need to feed it seems reasonably available. V-n160, Lapua cases, Federal primers and bullets from Yew Tree in the post next day. 3200fps. and excellent grouping. No need for me to look at anything else, is there ?
p.s. it also digests nosler 95gr. BT and 85gr Partitions almost as well but with N-150
 
308tikka said:
The only important bits are - what projectile can be fired accurately and repeatedly in the calibre chosen..?
And secondly, what is the availability of brass.

243 is fine. Its only Scotland where it will be an issue with non-lead and rifle twist. So many people are being led to dispose of 243 living in England, Wales and NI and theres simply no need to.

And rebarreling 243 to a tighter twist will also do the trick in Scotland. The dealers LOVE selling new guns which is why much of this claptrap is propagated.
Having said that 6xc is effective. @Norway @dodgyknees ???
Plenty of youtube videos with 6xc on deer.
Im using 6BR (have hundreds of once fired cases) and its super accurate with minimal recoil. Theres a 6mm cartridge for everyone.
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I have to agree with everything you write.

I've used a variety of cartridges, and there's been nothing in the end result that would warrant a "superior" claim or motivate shouldering the cost of changing. Two exceptions to this statement; my 6mm-223 had the roe running a bit much and the 300NM was excessive in carcass damage.

If not for local legislation, 6mmBR would be the best 6mm for me (birds to roe). As it is I have probably fired my last 6 XC shot. I've run out of time for reloading, and my 6,5x55 does exactly the same for half the money. Add a requirement for 100gr copper bullets plus the current 2x component price, and I can't motivate myself to keep shooting 6 XC even though it is a lovely cartridge.
 
dodgyknees said:
The A-Max was not a match bullet. It was a general-purpose hunting / target bullet and was categorised as such by Hornady up until the point they decided to release two different bullets that did essentially the same job, the ELD-X and the ELD-M. We’ve been through all this before…

The Lapua Scenar is a very poor choice for hunting. It’s terminal performance is the same as the original tiny meplat Bergers back in the day - highly unreliable expansion ranging from classic pinhole through and through to explosive under penetration. You might get lucky and encounter just the right amount of resistance at the right angle but personally I wouldn’t touch them. My primary shooting buddy learnt this lesson the hard way with maximum embarrassment when trying to use up his stock of Scenars on goats after he switched to Bergers for F-Class.
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Amax was my primary hunting bullet for maybe twenty years? Never failed to expand or penetrate, I still have >6000.
First and only time I tried Berger it pinholed. A quick followup worked as that one expanded.
Amongst birdhunters in Norway/Sweden, the Scenar bullet is an established favorite as it does not expand properly, but still offers a bit better knockdown than FMJ.
 
I was told off by the head stalkers. :lol:
6mm-223: "Next year bring a new rifle or your own dog..." (had the dogs out 4-5 times that week for lungshot deer)
300NM: " Now you tried it. Flying home, drop that rifle in the Atlantic..." (had two severly damaged carcasses)
 
Norway said:
I was told off by the head stalkers. :lol:
6mm-223: "Next year bring a new rifle or your own dog..." (had the dogs out 4-5 times that week for lungshot deer)
300NM: " Now you tried it. Flying home, drop that rifle in the Atlantic..." (had two severly damaged carcasses)
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Ah well, they must have been feeling generous!

Usually get hit with all sorts of additional 'fees' when such incidents happen... maybe you tip well! 😅😆
 
Norway said:
I have to agree with everything you write.

I've used a variety of cartridges, and there's been nothing in the end result that would warrant a "superior" claim or motivate shouldering the cost of changing. Two exceptions to this statement; my 6mm-223 had the roe running a bit much and the 300NM was excessive in carcass damage.

If not for local legislation, 6mmBR would be the best 6mm for me (birds to roe). As it is I have probably fired my last 6 XC shot. I've run out of time for reloading, and my 6,5x55 does exactly the same for half the money. Add a requirement for 100gr copper bullets plus the current 2x component price, and I can't motivate myself to keep shooting 6 XC even though it is a lovely cartridge.
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Local legislation where? Norway or Scotland?
 
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