7 mm rem mag or......

It does seem to me that quite a few take their answers from the " wannkers guide to deer hunting" or the many other publications eg "the tossa`s book of big guns" or worse from online sites without having had the actual experience.

One thing that I have noted is that some of the 'high seat' rifles can at times look like they should be resting on a mud brick wall in Iraq rather than a seat rail over a rape field. :lol: :british:
 
How many Howas have you owned @njc110381?

Done much shooting with them?
A grand total of none. I had an RFD friend who didn't recommend them and when I picked one up in the shop I hated it. Personal choice but I'd rather have a 30 year old Finnish rifle with a cracking reputation than a Japanese knock off of a Remington.

Maybe I should add that there are loads of Howa fans out there, I'm just not one of them! Each to their own.
 
Japanese knock off of a Remington...

You are so horribly wrong it’s embarrassing.

Time for you to get googling old son.
 
Japanese knock off of a Remington...

You are so horribly wrong it’s embarrassing.

Time for you to get googling old son.
There really isn't any need. I don't like them and will never have one so why waste the brain space? They don't fit me, they weigh a ton for what they are and the stocks feel like they're made out of old tyres. Yours may be the best thing since sliced bread but I'm more an artisan loaf kind of guy.
 
Ah ok then. You haven’t owned one, haven’t shot one, your friend told you, and you don’t know the design, or the history, or the range available today, or pretty much anything objective and experience based at all?

Just the kind of recommendation we like to see. Spot on.
 
What now @Finch?

Our OP is buying a Howa so he tells us. His money, his choice, he wants one. Good on him. And yet those with zero experience of the product are critical of his choice. If that’s the way you’d prefer it, all good. I’ll throw in a FFS for good measure.
 
One thing is that the longer barrel actually helps the rifle man shooting off the shoulder also..no ifs no buts!
Totally agree with this. A longer heavier barrel points better shooting offhand because it settles to the shot quicker and stays on it longer if you hesitate before the waving sets in. Also helps shooting standing off sticks. Seems to help calm "circling".

I've noticed this even when rabbit shooting at short ranges at night off sticks. If I was buying my pair of rimfires again (14" HW 60s) I'd buy 18" barrels for this reason alone.
 
It's not a stalking rifle John, that should be pretty obvious... ;)

In fact, in the the write-up of that trip I referred to it as "my ridiculous 13lb rifle".
 
Ah ok then. You haven’t owned one, haven’t shot one, your friend told you, and you don’t know the design, or the history, or the range available today, or pretty much anything objective and experience based at all?

Just the kind of recommendation we like to see. Spot on.
That's the one, spot on sir! I have a lot of contacts who know a great deal more than I do. If they say steer clear then I steer clear. I've handled, used and owned enough Sako rifles to have faith in them and have the confidence to say that not a lot of rifles are better. Barely any if they're new!
 
I had one in a tikka t3 supervarmint. Cracking bit of kit with a lovely set trigger and a 6-24 Swarovski PV. Absolutely should never of sold it!

Primary objective was a flat shooting hard hitting calibre for stopping sika dead in their tracks in heavy forestry (I was truly sick of crawling around under Sitka) I can say with confidence it performed this admirably. Can’t say carcass damage was overly bad, if you take a rushed crappy shot with anything you’ll lose a lot of meat and 7mm RM is no different. I’d get another in a heart beat.
 
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