7x64?

Dave881

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Hi everyone,
I have been thinking about dropping down to one calibre for all of my deer stalking and have been considering the 7x64. From what I have read it's a good all round cartridge and for me it's one I can get a barrel in for my sauer 202. I don't really want to change from the 202 synchro xt that I have as I find it fits me perfectly and I am very confident in it. Does anyone on here have much experience with 7x64 in general and does anyone use it in a sauer rifle? Any info would be greatly appreciated. As I side question, I reload so how easy is it to find cases and how is 7mm for shops stocking a choice of bullets?
Thanks
Dave
 
The 7 x 64 is a great cartridge. Accurate, bucks the wind and carries a lot of energy. Don't hesitate, just get one. By the way I have never had a problem getting ammunition for it.

David.
 
My honest opinion is just get one, you will not regret it.
No problems getting bullets etc,.
I have killed everything from muntjac to moose, all fell over well.
 
Not used a Sauer but I like the 7x64. Very capable cartridge.

Reloading - Viht has a lot of loads as does ReLoad Swiss
There are those who have successfully taken 280 Rem data and used in 7x64. (Very similar case dimensions and volumes but of course satisfy you are happy accepting the risks in doing so)
Cases - Various people make them including Norma. I could probably sell you some Once fired Geco if you would like it? (Reloaded fine for me for a target load)

Scrummy
 
I've had both 7x64 and .280 Remington. FWIW I though the .280 Remington the better cartridge in design. Being essentially the old 7mm-06 wildcat. But in the real world a 7x64 will be easier to source ammunition and a better and broader spectrum of loadings too. The .280 Remington is "dead" to all intents. Which is a huge pity as it is a far, far better cartridge than the .270 WCF. In fact it (and the 7x64) are all that the .270 WCF should have been but never was.
 
I've had both 7x64 and .280 Remington. FWIW I though the .280 Remington the better cartridge in design. Being essentially the old 7mm-06 wildcat. But in the real world a 7x64 will be easier to source ammunition and a better and broader spectrum of loadings too. The .280 Remington is "dead" to all intents. Which is a huge pity as it is a far, far better cartridge than the .270 WCF. In fact it (and the 7x64) are all that the .270 WCF should have been but never was.

Have to agree with this.

David.
 
I had a rifle rebarreled in .270 before I started reloading. If I'd been a reloader at the time I was making that change, it would beyond a shadow of a doubt have been changed to 7x64 instead.
 
Being German I can only support you in your choice. Great cartridge. I‘ve had it for years, on an off, and may have it again.
There are some things to consider though, especially from a reloader‘s point of view.
The 7x64 has a very long throat. Deliberately, I may say, in order for it to be able to take up heavy bullets. But this can prove tricky when you try to load lighter projectiles. These may even have complete free-flight, which may lead to accuracy problems. It is still an accurate chambering, it is just not as forgiving as a .308.
Another peril I encountered was the fact, that Redding makes neither S-type dies nor competion seating dies for the 7x64. But this may not be an issue for most people, so just a side note from my side.
 
These people either have, or advertise and ability to obtain, a range of posh 7x64 dies.
Might be worth a try?
 
Hi everyone,
I have been thinking about dropping down to one calibre for all of my deer stalking and have been considering the 7x64. From what I have read it's a good all round cartridge and for me it's one I can get a barrel in for my sauer 202. I don't really want to change from the 202 synchro xt that I have as I find it fits me perfectly and I am very confident in it. Does anyone on here have much experience with 7x64 in general and does anyone use it in a sauer rifle? Any info would be greatly appreciated. As I side question, I reload so how easy is it to find cases and how is 7mm for shops stocking a choice of bullets?
Thanks
Dave
I have loads of brass if you need any.
 
Thanks for the response guys, I really appreciate it, some great support for this cartridge. I was looking at loading a 140 grain nosler ballistic tip, not sure what powder yet. Anyone got thoughts? Need it to be good for neck shooting at moderate sensible ranges but capable of a boiler room shot for out to 250ish.
 
I'd consider that although a fine combination that with a 140 grain weight bullet you're wasting the value of the 7x64 by using it as little more than a .270 WCF. I'd go for 160 grain. Or if that's not available continental 10 gram bullets that are 154 grain. Some would say that 14 grains isn't going to make any difference. I'd disagree.
 
I run a 280ai, very similar to 7x64. Fantastic all round chambering for larger species, Reds through Boar and even Plains Game. I load with 168 ABLR for deer and would use the same for Plains Game, 175 Partitions for Boar. A softer version of a 7RM - much nicer to shoot.
 
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Being German I can only support you in your choice. Great cartridge. I‘ve had it for years, on an off, and may have it again.
There are some things to consider though, especially from a reloader‘s point of view.
The 7x64 has a very long throat. Deliberately, I may say, in order for it to be able to take up heavy bullets. But this can prove tricky when you try to load lighter projectiles. These may even have complete free-flight, which may lead to accuracy problems. It is still an accurate chambering, it is just not as forgiving as a .308.
Another peril I encountered was the fact, that Redding makes neither S-type dies nor competion seating dies for the 7x64. But this may not be an issue for most people, so just a side note from my side.
Redding will make an s type die for 7x64....that said it’s from their custom range and as such costs about 2.5x more than a standard s type....about £120 from memory and takes about 4 weeks to arrive.
 
I've had two 7x64, a Merkel Helix, and now a Blaser R8.

The Helix shot like a dream, N560, 156gn Norma Oryx, 2925fps, very accurate, and used for boar, Reds, and the same home load is just as good in the Blaser.

I would suggest circa 22-23" barrel.
 
To answer the OP, get the barrel, you won’t regret it! Brass and bullets shouldn’t be an issue in most decent stores and both viht 160 and rl19 and 22 work well, in tends to prefer heavier bullets in the 150-175grn range. Most European manufacturers make a decent load in 7x64, Norma, rws, geco all make decent ammo for the chambering....geco make a 165sp that’s pretty decent at sensible ranges, it’s available in boxes of 50 and at about £1 a round you you can shoot it for free and create decent brass for reloading. My go to factory hunting round is a 162 rws cone point is also have a fairly hot 175grn game king load that shoots to exactly the same poi which is proper result!
 
If you do get a 7x64 Dave and decide to reload other folks fired cases, bear in mind that they will need full length sizing the first time at least even if you will neck size subsequent loadings.
Barnes do a good range of 7mm TTSX bullets and Fox also offer some. Either would give you great performance in your chambering.

Ian
 
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