Other way round isn’t it?
A frosty morning, and it ain't just the weather...
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Stalker62
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Which is the worst type of misfuelling?
Putting petrol into a diesel car is the most common form of misfuelling – and the most serious.Diesel cars use fuel as a lubricant, but petrol is corrosive so it can seriously damage the inside of your engine and your vehicle's fuel pump.
Mistakenly putting diesel into a petrol car is much less common, partly because diesel nozzles are larger than the filler neck on most petrol cars.
I am (ironically) no expert by my man in the overalls and Dr. Google say otherwise.
Either way is best avoided...
I started to read thread & was admiring the vehicle's colour, I did wonder on your mention of fuelling up, that perhaps with your thoughts on lots of prizes turning up last minute before the big day you may have picked up the E5 /10.
Overlay
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Hope you get it sorted ok mate, just saw this and showed SWMBO with a gentle reminder of a similar occurrence she was involved in with her brand new petrol car and a diesel pump quite a few years ago now, the gentle reminder was met with a siberian cold stare and a reply about being an elephant and holding a grudgeCold this morning wasn't it?
-5c around these parts.
Still, I have just got my Landrover back - she has been in since July, having a bit of TLC.
"Do you want your truck back over Christmas? You might find it useful with all this snow and ice?
That would be nice, I had begun to wonder where the old girl was. This mechanic is a 'one man band', and can be quite slow; couple that with a very relaxed owner, and the time soon slips away.
"She will need to come back to me in January, so I can finish her off?
Christ, I hope that is not another six months.
So, I go out this morning to find her covered in about 1" of ice - and that is on the inside. All heaters on full blast, and best part of an hour later, and I can start to see out...
She is very low on fuel, and so the first thing I do it fill her up. Not done that for a while. Expensive ain't it?
Back on the farm, and I load her up with feed and begin my rounds.
The fuel pump is making a noise like a swarm of hornets, and she is miss-firing all around the farm.
She eventually grinds to a halt, and the Farmer is forced to turn out with his (non-Landrover) truck, and tow me back to the yard.
So, I have had her back two days, I have driven her to the petrol station, then to the farm and she has packed up.
The AA are called.
"We could get to you in 20 minutes or it could be tomorrow, we are very busy just now".
No **** Sherlock.
I phone "International Rescue" (Mrs S62) to come and (once again) save my sorry arse.
When she gets there, she is not amused by my 'snow graffiti'...
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I point across to the pile of junk, cursing the mechanic who had her, the bloke who invented the internal combustion engine, and everyone else whose fault it is...
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Then the Farmer has a suggestion. He rents out Units on his farm, and one of them is a specialist garage.
My useless piece of junk is, by happenstance,dumpedparked outside their Unit.
Out comes a man in overalls, and we have a chat.
Long short.
The AA can 'do one' - it takes longer to cancel them than it did to call them - and the truck is going to be left with my new best friend.
About three hours later, my new 'Bestie" phones me.
"We have found the problem. When you filled up this morning, you did so with petrol - this is a diesel engine..."
And so gentle reader, I beg you to excuse me - as I have to away and write my acceptance speech, for this month's:-
"Cnut of the Month" award.
Be prepared for a few long hard cruel reminders from SWMBO over the next few years and good luck
Bavarianbrit
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Considering the present fuel prices I wonder if fitting a petrol engine into the LR might be the cheapest option. 
Does anyone else think this was a dream sequence? I mean, the bit about 'heaters on full blast'. That raises suspicions to me. It is a landie.
Hornet 6
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Yup, back in the day (1992 on) I had a diesel escort van, 1600 diesel, ran great for most of the year, but in the cold starting would not happen on neat diesel, add ¼ tank of petrol and top off with diesel, started and ran ok, 5 years I had that and with nearly 300 K on it petrol was needed if a frost was likely.
Neil.
Smellydog
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Petrol in diesel is worse for two reasons.
Old injection pumps need a lubricant found in diesel fuel. Not so much modern diesel systems.
The second reason is the extreme temperature rise given by injected petrol at very high compression of a diesel engine burns the injector tips off in no time.
At speed that can then cause other damaging issues.
Diesel fuel in petrol engine just soots it all up but can with a possible build up of unburnt fuel cause a hydraulic lock up which can cause other terminal damage but unlikely as you won't start or drive well.
Old injection pumps need a lubricant found in diesel fuel. Not so much modern diesel systems.
The second reason is the extreme temperature rise given by injected petrol at very high compression of a diesel engine burns the injector tips off in no time.
At speed that can then cause other damaging issues.
Diesel fuel in petrol engine just soots it all up but can with a possible build up of unburnt fuel cause a hydraulic lock up which can cause other terminal damage but unlikely as you won't start or drive well.
Stalker62
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Went back to the farm this morning.
I could not help myself, but I had to pull into thescene of the crime relevant petrol station, to just check I had done what I had been accused of.
I knew I had used pump No. 2, and used the "Ultimate" option on the left hand side of the pump.
Well a picture paints a thousand words...
Bang goes my civil litigation case...
Obviously I had to borrow Mrs.62's car, to get to the farm this morning (as my truck is still in ICU). I noticed she had less than a quarter tank.
She is a Nurse (not on strike) with the NHS, and is due back to the front in the morning - I could do her a good turn.
"Do you want me to fuel your car up this morning?"
"No thanks. We need at least one serviceable car in the house".
Rude.
I could not help myself, but I had to pull into the
I knew I had used pump No. 2, and used the "Ultimate" option on the left hand side of the pump.
Well a picture paints a thousand words...
Bang goes my civil litigation case...
Obviously I had to borrow Mrs.62's car, to get to the farm this morning (as my truck is still in ICU). I noticed she had less than a quarter tank.
She is a Nurse (not on strike) with the NHS, and is due back to the front in the morning - I could do her a good turn.
"Do you want me to fuel your car up this morning?"
"No thanks. We need at least one serviceable car in the house".
Rude.
glasshalffull
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Correct. In fact I did exactly that with an A6 diesel putting half a tank of petrol into her. Mechanically minded father-in-law said just drive it out of it and keep topping up with diesel. Result was zero issues 
That was always my understanding, whereas diesel in a petrol was pretty much game over.Correct. In fact I did exactly that with an A6 diesel putting half a tank of petrol into her. Mechanically minded father-in-law said just drive it out of it and keep topping up with diesel. Result was zero issues
The ratio was 1 gal petrol to 100 diesel helped the start up but if you go crazy with the petrol very bad things happen, burned holes in pistons ect.
Smellydog
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Game over as it will not produce any power or even run. It will smoke and soot up the plug and valves. Possibly harm the cats but usually with a flus and fresh petrol a good run should restore it back to normal.
I had that happen the station tank was filled with diesel, the hose was for the gasoline, I did make it home and then the line filled with diesel, no power and smelled sulfur. So In went 2 gallons of 90% rubbing alcohol and 2 gallons 91 octane gasoline, the engine in question was a very well used IHC 392 V-8 it ran fine just a bit hot.
glasshalffull
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Think I'm right in saying that this can't happen for more modern diesel cars as the aperture is too small for the petrol nozzle to fit into? This is the case for my current car anyway so it's numpty proofed, just in case the wife has to borrow it 
Smellydog
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Bizarrely not. It's the petrol nozzles that are smaller. Nothing is fool proof and idiots are very resourceful. I know because I is one!Think I'm right in saying that this can't happen for more modern diesel cars as the aperture is too small for the petrol nozzle to fit into? This is the case for my current car anyway so it's numpty proofed, just in case the wife has to borrow it
FISH BOY
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Think I'm right in saying that this can't happen for more modern diesel cars as the aperture is too small for the petrol nozzle to fit into? This is the case for my current car anyway so it's numpty proofed, just in case the wife has to borrow it
I believe on modernish cars the diesel nozzle cannot fit into a petrol, but a petrol nozzle can still fit in a diesel.
Wont get on to whether you can put AD Blue into a diesel tank
