Air weapons scotland
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enfieldspares
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Well, to my mind, Scots airgun owners need then to write to their MSPs raosing these issues. Not in a confrontational manner but just stating they have an air rifle, they've been told no forms yet printed, and what does the MSP advise they do.
If the MSP replies "lodge with a dealer" respond as to who will pay as if Police Scotland are at fault...no forms...then is only right that Police Scotland pay or provide acceptable, safe, storage at Police Scotland's expense. Don't suffer in silence..get writing!
If the MSP replies "lodge with a dealer" respond as to who will pay as if Police Scotland are at fault...no forms...then is only right that Police Scotland pay or provide acceptable, safe, storage at Police Scotland's expense. Don't suffer in silence..get writing!
Pine Marten
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I think you'll find most of your answers here if you take the time to look: http://www.scotland.police.uk/whats-happening/air-weapon-and-licensing-scotland-act-2015
Woodsmoke
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Yep. I believe Police Scotland actually advised against air rifle licensing. It beggars belief, it really does. For instance, apparently last year there were nine offences relating to air rifles. The majority of which (I can't recall the exact details, but they were possibly grouped offences) were related to improper storage (and probably raised by officers attending the premises for completely unrelated reasons) and one relating to someone being underage in possession of one. Hardly a crime wave, and all dealt with using existing legislation. And as I say, I don't know the exact details, but I think it'd be safe to assume the perpetrators might be the sort of people not likely to bother complying with other laws that decent folk abide by . . . . .
I had hoped it would die with MacAskill being sacked
Paul,
You're legal to hold onto any air weapons you presently possess until your FAC/SGC renewal .
When you apply for your renewal you will also have to apply for an air weapons cert which will be a separate document for you to keep safely alongside your FAC and SGC.
As I understand it, an air weapons cert will allow you to posses and acquire any number on non FAC air guns. I'm not sure whether or not they will be listed individually on your air weapons cert.
See you when you get back from that sandy place!!
Cheers
Bruce
You're legal to hold onto any air weapons you presently possess until your FAC/SGC renewal .
When you apply for your renewal you will also have to apply for an air weapons cert which will be a separate document for you to keep safely alongside your FAC and SGC.
As I understand it, an air weapons cert will allow you to posses and acquire any number on non FAC air guns. I'm not sure whether or not they will be listed individually on your air weapons cert.
See you when you get back from that sandy place!!
Cheers
Bruce
It won't need anyone from outside Scotland to bring it to it's knees - if everyone up here who has an air gun applies for a certificate at the same time, the system will grind to a halt - and since it's the same people who will have to process the air weapon applications as do the applications/renewals and variations for SGCs and FACs, then current FAC and SGC holders are going to be very badly affected.
Cheers
Bruce
Woodsmoke
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Especially given that the Scottish Nazi Party have seen fit to reduce FLDs to a shadow of their former selves. Breath bated for the almighty clusterf*ck that's on its way . . . . . .
Paul,
F***in brilliant!!!
Cheers
Bruce
F***in brilliant!!!
Cheers
Bruce
matt_hooks
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Has anyone in Scotland heard the horrendous advert on the radio advertising this? "No Licence, not Airgun"
Apaprently, if you "don't want to apply for an airgun licence, you can hand your guns in to the police between the 26th of May and the somethingth of June" (I never hear the second date over the sound of grinding teeth). No mention that not everyone will be allowed a licence, and will therefore be left in unlawful possession of some very expensive kit with no way of keeping it, and no way of getting a reasonable price for it. At least when the handguns and semi auto rifles were stolen, there was some compensation (albeit massively inadequate) but apparently, because it is a licencing and not a ban, they don't need to pay compensation because you can just apply for a licence (not mentioning the cost of the licence). Apparently plinking in the back garden will not be considered good reason. So I think I'll be uprating all my air rifles and adding them to my FAC. It will cost less than the additional cost each renewal for an airgun licence.
It's sick, it's unworkable and I reckon dubious legally. The police don't want it (and will most likely only enforce it where it suits them to do so) and don't have the resources to cope with it. There are an estimated half a million air rifles in Scotland. If every person with an air rifle applied for a licence, "all the kings horses" etc.
Apaprently, if you "don't want to apply for an airgun licence, you can hand your guns in to the police between the 26th of May and the somethingth of June" (I never hear the second date over the sound of grinding teeth). No mention that not everyone will be allowed a licence, and will therefore be left in unlawful possession of some very expensive kit with no way of keeping it, and no way of getting a reasonable price for it. At least when the handguns and semi auto rifles were stolen, there was some compensation (albeit massively inadequate) but apparently, because it is a licencing and not a ban, they don't need to pay compensation because you can just apply for a licence (not mentioning the cost of the licence). Apparently plinking in the back garden will not be considered good reason. So I think I'll be uprating all my air rifles and adding them to my FAC. It will cost less than the additional cost each renewal for an airgun licence.
It's sick, it's unworkable and I reckon dubious legally. The police don't want it (and will most likely only enforce it where it suits them to do so) and don't have the resources to cope with it. There are an estimated half a million air rifles in Scotland. If every person with an air rifle applied for a licence, "all the kings horses" etc.
It can be brought to its knees.
Simply by civil obedience - everyone looking for a licence needs to apply mid November.
The system is not capable of taking such pressure.
Also anyone coming to Scotland early next year apply for a visitors permit at the same time.
This will overload the system and maybe even collapse it.
Every time thereafter there will be a spike in the system causing a headache for the police.
bewsher500
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Why not and where is that written?
If I have an open FAC and want to shoot targets in my back garden that is good reason enough.
where the issue is lies with people with no obvious place to shoot
join a club sharpish!
This is a "non issue". It's was stated a while ago the that APPLICATION PROCESS will start on 1st July. Certificate wont be needed until 31st Dec.
Those air rifle owners that have current SAC's or FAC's will not need to do anything until their current certificate is renewed.
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