All-terrain tyres

[Free range rob]

Are you comparing cooper mud tyres to bfg AT? Mud tyres are well known to have little grip in rain and snow/ice. The st maxx is not a mud tyre either tbh

No, I never fit outright muds on my road motors, always the at’s.

 

[landkeeper]

The cooper compound is softer, it’s not worse, just softer, this equates to quicker wear yes, but it also means a better tyre for wet, snow, ice and freezing conditions. The bfg’s I’ve had have been outright lethal in very wet conditions and on slippery and icy roads - they’re know for that due to their hard durable compound which gives them long life and puncture strength - it’s a trade off.

I know I will never put a set of KO2’s on my car when the heavy late summer rains and the snow/ice approches, recipe for disaster in my book.

I’m happy to trade in wear and lifespan for better grip and a tread pattern which actually clears itself of mud and snow and doesn’t hold on to every pebble I drive over!

This is what has attracted me to the Cooper ST Maxx

I dont know what sort of grip ye guys expect from a tyre i have run bfg ats on 4wd vejicles for decades now and never had a bad weather problem , and at the moment have bfg muds on my discovery which i drive at normal road speeds including motorway driving with no issues rain hail sleet or snow apart from additional road noise

 

[Malxwal]

Just chatting with my Mrs, and she's telling me she will not drive the Hilux in the wet as its stepped out on her a few times. Although I've already said I'm not a fan of the newer BFG ATs, I'm really not sure any tyre that offers good off-road performance can offer anything more than mediocre on road performance.

 

[User00003]

Just chatting with my Mrs, and she's telling me she will not drive the Hilux in the wet as its stepped out on her a few times. Although I've already said I'm not a fan of the newer BFG ATs, I'm really not sure any tyre that offers good off-road performance can offer anything more than mediocre on road performance.

My hilux is **** poor in the wet, if you don’t know the car it’s an accident waiting to happen. My Mrs would sh*t herself driving it in the wet. Haven’t got bfg’s on it, but had ko2’s on my previous car, and the compound was so hard wet traction and ice/snow was laughable.

I’ve settled on cooper st-maxx as my Falken replacements when the time comes

 

[takbok]

My old car had General Grabber AT's which were rather treacherous for oversteer in the cold or wet, possibly not helped by short wheelbase & RWD.

New car came with nearly new BFG AT's which seem to be a lot better so far on the road, and should be better for winter snow and forestry tracks.

 

[Sonicdmb73]

The only time I have trouble in the wet is with no weight in the back. Had the same problem with my first pickup on the road tyres it came with. The mud terrains I replaced them with where no better. The BFG’s were better but you still have to drive to the road conditions.
I have driven lots of different vehicles with different types of tyres and if you push them sooner or later they will misbehave.

 

[CarlW]

Empty pickups are invariably entertaining in the wet, irrespective of tyre choice. They are not really a good test of any tyre's road manners. Fill 'em with bricks or deer and they become a delight to drive...

 

[Sonicdmb73]

Empty pickups are invariably entertaining in the wet, irrespective of tyre choice. They are not really a good test of any tyre's road manners. Fill 'em with bricks or deer and they become a delight to drive...

Mine usually has some weight in the back. However recently I have had the need of the space. So the boxes with shooting gear etc have been taken out. Definitely needs a bit more finesse getting out of junctions.
However the ability to steer with both ends comes in handy every now and then