Ammunition advice

[stalkerboydy]

Hi Ed,
You are correct that every round fired has the risk element of ricochet, deflection thru and thru pass etc. I always tell new stalkers / shooters that you cannot take it (The projectile) back. Once you send it on its way it's gone and has the potential to destroy what it impacts with without prejudice or regret. It is an inanimate object that will react with whatever gets in it way.

For me in my experience the projectiles that were available at my time of testing which was over 11 years ago were just not up to scratch neither in terminal performance or in the manner in which we experienced ricochet.

Now as I have said no doubt things have moved on in leaps and bounds and I respect that your findings maybe different to mine, I don't claim to have the end say in anything be it right or wrong.
For what its worth I still cull more deer than I would care to admit and I use a 123Gn Soft point in .308 that many would have you believe would be no good. The BC is very low but I don't care...Its the right projectile for the purpose of killing game, energy transference is very high, wound channel is deep.

Now for me this has gone away from the OP question and I wouldn't wish for you to think that I was against non toxic projectiles, particularly as you are a vendor of them. As I have said things have moved on and I'm sure that if I replicated my tests of 11 years ago my finding may well be different.

Everyone is free to use whatever they wish and my findings are just the passage of information from my own tests and are in no way meant to cause you or anyone else to have doubt in there chosen projectile.

I have said enough on this subject and rarely post anything in open forums. For me I have said my bit.

Kind regards Bob.

I've shot my share of Deer and still shoot high number of Fallow using a 6.5x55se 120gr Barnes TTSX or Barnes 127gr LRX and hand on heart never ever had one bounce/ricochet .
One area i cull Fallow in a Village and most certainly would not use any type of Projectile that acts as you describe.
Amazing my Culling in numbers get some different results to you and I'd never use a Hornady SST in any calibre for nothing

 

[Wwm]

Many thanks for all the replies which were extrmely informative. Hopefully will now be able to find a suitable non-lead alternative that we can use when necessary.

 

[cjs66]

I've shot my share of Deer and still shoot high number of Fallow using a 6.5x55se 120gr Barnes TTSX or Barnes 127gr LRX and hand on heart never ever had one bounce/ricochet .
One area i cull Fallow in a Village and most certainly would not use any type of Projectile that acts as you describe.
Amazing my Culling in numbers get some different results to you and I'd never use a Hornady SST in any calibre for nothing

Nowt wrong with SST, one of my favourites. 243,6.5x55 and 308. Very accurate and good killers. They don't tend to run far..

cjs

 

[User00014]

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We import Fox Non Lead bullets and manufacture the factory ammo in the UK to our spec

They are now being used extensively by the Forestry Commission on all species with great success.
Data collected demonstrates excellent knock down power, reliable exits and expansion, excellent accuracy from factory ammo in stock Tikka/Sako rifles

· The design does not rely on terminal velocity to expand reliably (High BC, small meplat design does)
· The material does not break up even when run hard into ballistic clay and harder substrates
· They suffer none of the deviation from straight line performance that some brands have demonstrated
· They are available in numerous cartridges and calibres at prices that compete with standard lead ammunition
· The Factory Ammunition is made from REACH complaint powders so will remain consistent and available post Jun 2018
· We publish the Factory ammo load data we use so it can be replicated from reloading components/bullets


Production run of the following ammunition is due for delivery this week:

50gr .223 (3300 fps)
80gr .243 (2900 fps)
123gr 6.5x55 (2870 fps)
100gr 6.5x55 (2950 fps)
130gr .270 (3050 fps)
130gr 7x57 (2895 fps)
130gr .308 (3010 fps)
150gr .308 (2900 fps)
150gr .30-06 (2950 fps)
165gr .30-06 (2870 fps)

could you please pm me details of the cost and performance data of your .270 factory rounds and can you supply in bulk?

thanks

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

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For reference:

130gr .270 Factory Ammo

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[Tracer]

Hi
Could you please provide cost for your “123gr 6.5x55 (2870 fps)”?

I am planning a stalk early Jan’18 in Fyvie. Got some land up there. Your add on 223 testers, have you had any takers?
Cheers
Rob