Annoyed beyond words.....

It maybe bad for guides like you but it is good for punters like me. Any professional should be able to stand up to scrutiny and not afraid of being checked out.

I think i'm in a place to say I can be checked out on this very site, but it is not only a bad idea it maybe liable. Just pm him and get the very man rather than guess.
 
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I cannot see how naming an area can be libellous. You and other professionals such as Ian Farrington would have nothing to fear as you are respected.
 
Like I said i'm sure a pm would bear a name and the area.
Everyones happy.
ps i never meant an area i meant a name.
I totally agree they should be exposed but fueling whispers is not the way speak to the OP.
regards john
 
Totally agree with John on this one.

It is fine for those like John who are very well known but others maybe perfectly reputable but are not as publicly known and it would be unfair to tarnish them, suddenly anyone offering stalking in that area now or in the future and could be effected by the behaviour of another stalker, that would not really be on or achieving anything when someone's livelihood is at stake.

Alex
 
come on just say and then the working person can save his pennys and go elsewhere and not be put through the same as you.
 
God i hope i dont end up with that guy, I need ( new stalker) to know who and were to go so i can trust the more experenced stalker/guide.

ATB
 
The chap I go with is brilliant!

While he spots the deer I get to tag along behind with novices and show them how its done. Just last week I had three fallow, all way beyond 150 metres and I even managed to get one of them on the run! The lead you have to give with a .45-70 is much greater than with more modern rounds so practising on distant, running deer really gets the blood pumping. Such a buzz on when it goes right every once in a while! Can't wait to get my Level 1 done so I can take the novices out on my own.
 
:rofl: classic, what calibre was that again !

45-70, norma, and cooked according to the original recipe too. A 45 callibre unjacketed lead bullet with 70 grains of blackpowder behind it.

Its so much fun waiting for the smoke to clear before you can see whether you hit anything.
 
Stunning, just stunning. What else can we do to bring down our sport........Brilliant.
I saw my mate's auntie ask my other mates mum if his dad had seen her dad watch his cousin...blah blah blah tittle tattle, nothing else. :roll: Great.
 
I'm thinking this thread is pretty much over from both an argumentary perspective and an integrity perspective..Straighline...let's just have those facts and names so we can all get on with our lives..............or the next controversial thread...
 
I'm thinking this thread is pretty much over from both an argumentary perspective and an integrity perspective..Straighline...let's just have those facts and names so we can all get on with our lives..............or the next controversial thread...

I never really intended to cause any controversy with my original post but in retrospect it was inevitable given the events that happened. I have done my best to square it with both the stalker and the lease holder. The latter I emailed asking for a refund and they have deemed it fit to ignore my request. No reply either by email or telephone. Let down, I should say so.

I realise that there are many legitimate stalkers that do right by their clients and have no wish to harm any innocent business.Here is the article that I have written to include in the appropriate section of this forum. I stand by my original post.

Minsterley Stalking Club

Firstly let me say that I have been a member of this club for a while. When I joined it was on the back of joining Minsterley ranges, it seemed a logical choice as the range was friendly and accommodating and I was keen on stalking.
My first outing was with a chap called Phil Lynch a gruff bear of a chap who steered me in the right direction and my first stalk resulted in a good sized pricket within a half hour or so of leaving the keepers cottage, not common I would imagine but fortunate for me as the client. Sadly Phil moved on to the great stalking ground in the sky and another stalker took up the reins. The new stalker was recruited from within the ranks of the stalking club rather than being drafted in from the outside.
I am sure that there are many here that have paid to stalk and your experiences will differ widely. To my mind a stalkers job is to get the client in a position where a shot can be taken that will result in the humane killing of the beast. If that assumption is false then please feel free to correct me. The following is my honest experience of the Minsterley Stalking Club in its present incarnation.
When one stalks it is an exhilarating experience even for a seasoned shooter such as me. The long hours walking in the beautiful countryside surrounded by Mother Nature in all of her glory waiting for a glimpse of antler and the adrenaline rush when you spy your quarry is difficult to describe in mere words. I have been out on many occasions with the current stalker and over time one forms an opinion of your companion.
When I make the decision to actually pull the trigger on any species it is always after a deep breath and a calm assessment of the situation. Is there a back stop? The periphery, is it clear from any interloper that might walk into harm when the shot is taken? The foreground, is there an obstruction that may deflect the bullet from its path and cause injury rather than death?
These are questions that are not asked by the stalker at the club. The emphasis is on how quickly the shot is taken. On every occasion that a beast has presented itself I was pressured by the phrase “take the shot or I will” on two occasions this was followed by the report of his rifle before I had time to think of a response to the statement. I previously said that a stalkers job is to facilitate a shot by the client. This is not a priority for the clubs current man for whatever reasons.
The club states that the stalking is accompanied stalking only. It has been my experience that after a “Walk around with rifles” you will be put in a high seat while the accompanying person often leaves you to walk around on his own. The last time this happened he shot a fine buck within five hundred yards of the seat that I was left in. This was despite the fact that we had two way radios. The final outing with this particular stalker resulted in what I can only describe as an awful experience for both myself and my guest who was on only his second stalk.
My conclusion is that Minsterley is what it is. If you want to pay the best part of two hundred pounds a year to be a part of a deer stalking club and pay sixty pounds per stalk then that is your prerogative but in my opinion you would be better spending your money elsewhere.
I would take this opportunity to say that the administration of the club seems to be geared not by a love of the sport but by financial gain. Perhaps the stalker has been snared by this ethos but either way it is less than an ideal situation and unless the situation is dealt with I can only see a decline in membership. It is sad to see what could be a great sporting experience ruined by bad practice.
 
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