Another fall from a high seat in our Revier

[Bavarianbrit]

Lol…it was a stab at humour…although in fairness I think the U.K. still totes up the most inventions after Switzerland and followed by the US, so the U.K. are pretty industrious…

Oh yes, "the Brits are great at inventing but awful at implementing the invention" that was a comment I saw years ago I think it was ref the swing wing fighter. I screw up often when trying to write humour I blame my sec mod skool I shoulda gonna Eton like Boris.

 

[finnbear270]

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[jthyttin]

using nails instead of screws

Both have their places. If you only use screws, you must choose the type that are tough not brittle. And preferably use design where screws do not get stressed sideways (although this goes for nails also).

When using nails, galvanized ones hold much better, although they cost double so probably not used in Germany or Scotland (based on this thread...)

There have been several accidents here in Finland, to the point that relevant government agency published a warning in the end of last year. Wooden structures, including highseats, had been disintegrating (in lack of better word) due to indoor screws being used. Sometimes even with treated wood (that eats up regular screws). They contribute this to lack of information at point of sale, but I guess in most cases people would anyway buy the cheaper screws (and not look at info). And also buy too thin screws.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

My late best pal in South Carolina an ex car designer made these chairs for porch sitting as a hobby/sideline to stay busy.

he searched far and wide as the tannelised timber he used had salt in it which buggered/rusted up the screws, he finally sourced screws with an enamel as in pots & pans finish which cured that. I still have some but they are American with square driving heads instead of torx or phillips. Where they come from?????

 

[jthyttin]

You can get A4 stainless screws in at least 6mm thickness from hardware stores. They're meant for building decks (terraces), docks/quays etc.

But you need to be careful and choose the ones that are not hardened. I think (main?) reason for hardening is to make sure the end of screw won't get mangled.

You can test the toughness by bending a screw, but that unfortunately means you already bought the box. They can cost >30 Euros per 100pcs.

 

[User00040]

he searched far and wide as the tannelised timber he used had salt in it which buggered/rusted up the screws, he finally sourced screws with an enamel as in pots & pans finish which cured that. I still have some but they are American with square driving heads instead of torx or phillips. Where they come from?????

Robertson screws?

 

[John Gryphon]

I put a few of my seats together with these roof batten screws. Galvanising adds a lot of life.
I haven't sat in any of my seats (4) since last years winter.

Galvanised Bugle Batten Screws - 14g x 100mm - 500 pc

Galvanised Bugle Batten Screws have a course tapping thread and a special long sharp fluted point to capture chips in timber. The Galvanised Batten Screw is used widely in the building trade as it is a heavy duty screw. It is often used in retai

www.thefastenerfactory.com.au

 

[Mr. Gain]

Both have their places. If you only use screws, you must choose the type that are tough not brittle. And preferably use design where screws do not get stressed sideways (although this goes for nails also).

When using nails, galvanized ones hold much better, although they cost double so probably not used in Germany or Scotland (based on this thread...)

There have been several accidents here in Finland, to the point that relevant government agency published a warning in the end of last year. Wooden structures, including highseats, had been disintegrating (in lack of better word) due to indoor screws being used. Sometimes even with treated wood (that eats up regular screws). They contribute this to lack of information at point of sale, but I guess in most cases people would anyway buy the cheaper screws (and not look at info). And also buy too thin screws.

Great information. Thankyou!