Are these roe?

[Mike1979]

Sheeps!

Nope...I know what they look like (mainly whilst chasing them ...but best not get into that )

 

[geoshot]

Good thread/photo
This is why I heartily laugh at a couple of friends of mine who resolutely claim and assert that they are absolutely certain, 100% sure exactly which species/gender of deer they are looking at through their fancy new HikMicro scopes

 

[Sol]

Good thread/photo
This is why I heartily laugh at a couple of friends of mine who resolutely claim and assert that they are absolutely certain, 100% sure exactly which species/gender of deer they are looking at through their fancy new HikMicro scopes

Maybe your friends do, maybe they dont.

But it should be the impression that stalkers can Identify there target may that be with thermal, or glass, coat color and or antlers shouldn't be the deciding factor
Your friends may come a day where they say the animal in front of them Is a roe, but Is actually a sika but Its if they actually take the shot is the question or decide to pay attention too it.

Every deer has there own unique set of behaviors, context clues... why would two adult roe "does" be together this time of year? they wouldn't but two sika hinds isn't unreasonable too see, I'd personally assume there 1yos so not bred/no calves at foot, will probably be sisters.

Take all clues, antlers, colour, size, body shape, tail? no tail?, antler shape? with others? few of the things that should run through your head.

 

[Mickeydredd]

That black line on the back of the neck would suggest Sika IMO

Or Red……

 

[Nickb]

Every deer has there own unique set of behaviors, context clues... why would two adult roe "does" be together this time of year?

See it all the time , saw 6 does in a field the other day.

 

[ebeckerlegge]

Sika I would say. That black stripe would suggest so

 

[Warrenton]

I think Sika

 

[Jamesheff]

Roe or Sika?

100% Roe

 

[Mr. Gain]

A couple of stills makes for a nice parlour game, but context is what completes the picture: movement, behaviour, location, previous sightings, etc.
I'm guessing the OP doesn't have many roe on their ground. Or perhaps it's an unfamiliarity with sika...

 

[HonestJohn]

A couple of stills makes for a nice parlour game, but context is what completes the picture: movement, behaviour, location, previous sightings, etc.
I'm guessing the OP doesn't have many roe on their ground. Or perhaps it's an unfamiliarity with sika...

Or needing to spend money on DSC’s rather than digital optics harsh.

 

[Camdig]

100% Roe

Are you referring to my picture?

 

[Jamesheff]

Are you referring to my picture?

Yes mate

 

[Camdig]

Yes mate

Well it's 100% a Sika

 

[HonestJohn]

Well it's 100% a Sika

sure is, they all are

 

[Camdig]

sure is, they all are

The 2nd picture i posted rules out any doubt not that there should be anyway, I know it's the same hind as a contractor left a gate open which let her and her calf in.

 

[slider]

Sika

 

[HonestJohn]

Pope

 

[hendrix's rifle]

Maybe your friends do, maybe they dont.

But it should be the impression that stalkers can Identify there target may that be with thermal, or glass, coat color and or antlers shouldn't be the deciding factor
Your friends may come a day where they say the animal in front of them Is a roe, but Is actually a sika but Its if they actually take the shot is the question or decide to pay attention too it.

Every deer has there own unique set of behaviors, context clues... why would two adult roe "does" be together this time of year? they wouldn't but two sika hinds isn't unreasonable too see, I'd personally assume there 1yos so not bred/no calves at foot, will probably be sisters.

Take all clues, antlers, colour, size, body shape, tail? no tail?, antler shape? with others? few of the things that should run through your head.

Firstly, you try ID'ing something in poor light + heavy forest. You can easily get confused between species, especially somewhere like norfolk that has just about everything and you can see fallow alongside red (within reason). I doubt you're getting a good positive ID through thermal either, especially once roe bucks have shed.

Also worth noting i, likely alongside many others on here have seen heards of roe deer. We're not talking big herds but 8-10 isn't unheard of. Hell, just a couple of weeks ago I was watching a banking that had maybe 6 different deer sat on it and they were all roe.

 

[Sniper308]

Seen again today. Much better picture

 

[slider]

Sika, no question about it